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    The "identify these tools" thread

    hi everyone,

    every now and again i come across some random tools or shop items (more often in ebay auctions) and think, "i wish i knew who made that". Knowing the manufacturer sometimes makes sourcing things much easier. So I'd like to start a thread where people can post pics of stuff they would like to be identified and who knows, maybe someone here knows something about it.

    for starters i'm curious about two things.

    a truing stand from "Citra". Never heard of this company. Virtually no information about it exists or at least I haven't been able to find anything.

    Citra 3 800 x 600.JPGCitra 1 800 x 600.jpg

    and a repair stand from an unknown manufacturer, which resembles a bit the one from Cyclus, but what I find really good, is a) that a front wheel doesn't have to be mounted in order to use it. b) the BB is secured between the chainstays, reducing the chance of the frame slipping, as it sometimes does with the Cyclus stand.

    Ständer.jpg

    if a thread like this already exists, then please let me know.

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    If it would help your search, the "BV" after the "Citra" or maybe "CITRA" (acronym?) would indicate that the company was in the Netherlands.

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    If I remember correctly, the "optical" truing stand was a Canadian product (or marketed by a Canadian firm) sometime in the mid seventies. When set up correctly, it's a nice system since it simultaneously shows radial (hop) and axial (wobble) errors, allowing the wheelwright to better decide whether to work by tightening or loosening.

    It worked very nicely, as did other similar systems when working on multiple copies of the same wheel, but was less suited to working on a single copy, because there wasn't an easy way to determine the true 0/0 position for the grid.

    The stand was shown at Interbike for a year or two, but was a market failure and went away.
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    We had one of those stands at the shop I worked in. It was OK but nothing special, kind of a hassle because you have to re-adjust it for each bike and you can only work on half the bike.
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    Being the originator of the photos posted above by rideone (without me knowing but I don't mind ;-) ) I may add my two pence.
    No one, I mean literally none, I have ever shown this Citra truing stand did ever say it was "OK but nothing special".
    As reference I may quote a spoke professional from Sapim to whom I have shown the stand on a small bicycle frame builders fair some years ago. This guy is constantly working on professional cycling team's wheels on big events like Tour and Giro and was so impressed after having worked with this stand only a few minutes that he said he would swap it immediately for what he was using.
    - Intuitivity
    - simplicity and
    - resilient reliability
    are the obvious outstanding attributes of this stand.
    The only two persons but me that I know that can consider themselves lucky enough to call one of the few stands that must exist their own would give their right arm for not having to miss this fine piece of precision engineering on their daily work.
    Both of them are experienced professionals in the bike business. One, Germany's eldest Campagolo dealer as far as I know, sold one of the two stands he had to me when he closed his shop some years ago in his eighties and after a lifetime of first having been a bicycle racer and then a racing bicycle seller.

    What's so hard about finding the center of the rim?
    I added a little mark on the under horizontal bar of the stand's middle:



    You only have to quickly measure the length of the threaded control rod that holds the hub's axle on both sides.
    By the way: Do other stands with self centering mechanism render Campa's centering caliber unnecessary?
    To me the Citra story simply proofs one thing:
    Not everything that is superior establishes on the market.

    One last quotation from a friend of mine that says it all:
    Any idiot can center a wheel with this machine!
    Is that why it didn't find enough friends?

    Cheers,
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    Last edited by cutrofiano; 04-07-14 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutrofiano View Post
    Being the originator of the photos posted above by rideone (without me knowing but I don't mind ;-) ) I may add my two pence.
    No one, I mean literally none, I have ever shown this Citra truing stand did ever say it was "OK but nothing special".
    I think you misunderstood. The "nothing special" comment wasn't referencing the Citra truing stand but the repair stand in the bottom photograph. That style of repair stand that supports the bike by the bottom bracket and one set of dropouts has become fairly common but, as noted, you can only work on one end of the bike at a time.

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    As would it being painted Orange, [would indicate that the company was in the Netherlands.]

    you can only work on one end of the bike at a time.
    but both sides ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
    I think you misunderstood. The "nothing special" comment wasn't referencing the Citra truing stand but the repair stand...
    Ups- stupid me
    I feel a relief though, the comment was not on the Citra

    Concernig the repair stand: I have another grained finish blue version which was more common.
    I found the orange one in the scrap metal.

    Cheers,
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    Last edited by cutrofiano; 04-20-14 at 02:19 PM.

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