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Old 12-26-13, 07:52 PM   #1
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shimano campy decision

Is me again, need you guys to help me decide something
happen to have a sram s30al race wheelset and a campy athena 10s groupset
wheelset is only shimano compatible(cannot change the freehub body)
Pick the option:
option 1: shiftmate+new shimano cassette(sell the athena cassette)
$40usd+30usd(-$20usd?)=50
option 2:AMBROSIO 10 SPEED cassette(shimano splined campy spacing)
$75
option 3: new campagnolo vento wheelset
$120
option 4:dont build a bike
$0
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Old 12-26-13, 08:08 PM   #2
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Since you already have the whole Campy group I'd go option 2.

The shiftmates make the most sense, IMO, when you want to run Campy brifters with Shimano everything else.
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Old 12-26-13, 08:12 PM   #3
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Only you can decide but...I've been running a Shiftmate with a Shimano cassette, Centaur shifters/RD for about 5 years and it shifts perfectly every time. I was going to convert to a Campy compatible wheelset at one time but it works so well I didn't see the need to spend the cash.
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Old 12-26-13, 08:21 PM   #4
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Since you already have the whole Campy group I'd go option 2.

The shiftmates make the most sense, IMO, when you want to run Campy brifters with Shimano everything else.
I vote for option 1. Actually Shiftmates also work well for Campy everything except the cassette. A Shiftmate #1 pulley is used for Campy 10-speed brifters and a Campy rear derailleur with a Shimano 10-speed cassette. I've used Shiftmates with an all-Shimano except for the brifter set-up (as you mentioned) and an all-Campy except for the shifter set up and they've both worked flawlessly. No reason to believe the OP's option 1 wouldn't be just as good.

My only "problem" with option 2 is that I've heard that aftermarket cassettes, IRD among other, don't shift that well no matter what brifter or derailleur you use. I have no personal experience with them but I've read enough complaints to be a bit leery of using them.

Option 4? Absurd! Of course you are going to build the bike.
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Old 12-26-13, 08:32 PM   #5
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You might put the SRAM wheels on the bay, see what you get for them, then put that money towards Campy compatible wheels. It's not exactly one of the options, but it's what I would do if I wanted to run the Campy group. Unless I had another use for the SRAM wheels and didn't want to get rid of them.
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Whatever will let you use Shimano cassettes is usually a good bet I reckon.
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As far as I know, Campagnolo never made a 10 speed Athena groupset. Current Athena is 11 speed. Shimano and SRAM 11 speed cassettes use virtually identical spacing to Campy 11 speed, but you may not be able to fit an 11 speed cassette onto your wheel

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Old 12-26-13, 09:52 PM   #8
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campy athena 10s groupset <-- 1st time I hear about this. Maybe a centaur?
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pufffff, i am sorry, it is a centaur 10speed, i've saw some bad commend on shiftmate so I am move towards the option no.2.
If i sell my sram s30al, what campagnolo wheelset can I get? If i sell it i should be able to get around $300
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I'd go with a new shimano 8spd cassette, a shimano rear derailer.
leave the rest campy.
(campy 10 will shift a shimano 8 without need of shiftmate)

end up with good ergonomics, good cassette shifting, and durable 8spd chains
no specialty parts, inexpensive

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i've saw some bad commend on shiftmate so I am move towards the option no.2.
Not here you didn't. You have to install them correctly, which isn't difficult, but they work VERY well. It's obviously your choice but don't let bad information mislead you.
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Old 12-27-13, 02:11 PM   #12
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I do realize the benefit of shiftmate which is you can swap the wheel to every wheel on the market. any tips on installing them?
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I do realize the benefit of shiftmate which is you can swap the wheel to every wheel on the market. any tips on installing them?
Follow the directions. Do a Google image search, there are LOTS of images of correctly installed ShiftMates, including cable positioning.
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Old 12-27-13, 02:30 PM   #14
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do i need extra housing cab?
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As for the last question, well... i cant figure it out what do you mean with cab. Well yes,you will need a few more inches of housing. If you are recycing cables there is a chance that what you have in there will be too short and would be good to use a brand new cable.

If you are going to use the campagnolo shifter just put a shimano cable and dremel the head to fit the cable spooler hole. will take you like 30 secs to get it done versus wait like a month to get the campagnolo cable

Good luck.
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Old 12-27-13, 08:11 PM   #16
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Actually a Shiftmate requires a shorter housing section between the chainstay housing stop and the rear derailleur. It requires a slightly longer inner cable wire to allow the pulley wrap but any normal derailleur cable is plenty long.
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found this for campy spacing shimano splined cassette for around $50, fair price, about the same as shiftmate
http://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-ca.../10768425.html
now i am really struggling between shiftmate and this cassette
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The housing depends a lot of the bend you need, hillyman says less, I say more... but the cable will be longer for sure. In one of my bikes I used 2 pieces of housing to help the bending a little bit more, you have to figure it out you know.
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I tried Shimano 10sp wheels on Chorus equipped bikes without the shiftmate. It worked ok enough but these weren't my main wheels, which were Ventos at the time. I gave up on the whole idea of mixing when I bought better Campy wheels and never looked back. I guess that's option 3+. Ventos are lower end wheels, get something better.
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