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Old 01-15-14, 11:48 AM   #1
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I locked two bike together during my vacation and now I can't find my key :-((

Hello all,

I hope all is well with everyone for the new year, my new year isn't starting that well! I came back a few days ago from my vacation. Nothing happened as far as a break in or anything, but I lost my key to my Kryptonite New York lock. I haven't finished searching for the key, but I'm not that confident. The really DUMB thing I did was I didn't register this lock with Kryptonite! :-((:::::::......

Anyone have any ideas? I do have another bike to fall back on, so I could wait for a lock if I had to. I mean it's only my most expensive bike tied up! I'm really not looking forward to cutting this lock, but I will need some tips if you have any. I don't have an angle grinder and this is probably what I will need.

Any and all responses will be most welcomed and go ahead and let me know dumb this was!

(I hope this is the right forum for this)
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It's a home, so you have access to power tool. Cut the shackle with an abrasive disc cutter.

BTW- roughly 5 minutes after you cut the lock, you'll remember where the key is.
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Anyone have any ideas? . . .
Find the key.
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What happened to the spare keys they come with?
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Those are still with the original owner.......................................
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What happened to the spare keys they come with?

That was one of the first things I did was grab all my spare keys, but non of them works. I'm going to try one more time. I've yet to tear my place apart, will do so before giving up. I guess Home Depot has an angle grinder that I guess will cut these locks. They're prices are reasonable on renting this. The big thing is the mess this is going to be. Talking to Kryptonite they said I'll have to do two cuts. They also said that I'll be able to send them the cut lock and they will replace it for $20. That's one saving grace on this.

And I'm pretty sure I put all the extra keys all together on this, as it was on one chain. Sorry, but there's no extra drama on this angle.
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Decide which bike you want to keep, then hacksaw thru the other bike.
Now you can ride the good bike.
You can duct tape the U-lock against the frame so it doesn't rattle around.
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Decide which bike you want to keep, then hacksaw thru the other bike.
Now you can ride the good bike.
You can duct tape the U-lock against the frame so it doesn't rattle around.
Usually when making a joke a is a good idea. Andy.
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Usually when making a joke a is a good idea. Andy.
I really hope that that reference to sawing one bike to free the other didn't need a smiley face or lol.
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Indeed it did. Jesse Jackson is on his way to Long Beach to represent underprivileged Kryptonite locks around the world and their owners who abuse them.



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I really hope that that reference to sawing one bike to free the other didn't need a smiley face or lol.
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Wait, this was a joke?
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Having been flamed a couple times for what I had thought was obvious jokes I guess I'm a bit sensitive about being clear concerning one's actual meaning when posting. Andy.
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Having been flamed a couple times for what I had thought was obvious jokes I guess I'm a bit sensitive about being clear concerning one's actual meaning when posting. Andy.
I understand, but having grown up in an era when we didn't laugh at our own jokes, and had to write without LOLs or emoticons, I'm not about to start now. If folks don't see humor by reading between the lines, it's their loss, not mine.
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I understand, but having grown up in an era when we didn't laugh at our own jokes, and had to write without LOLs or emoticons, I'm not about to start now. If folks don't see humor by reading between the lines, it's their loss, not mine.
Truth. I almost made the same joke myself, but didn't feel like typing it out. Instead I made it in my head and chuckled (internally) a little bit.
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Back to the lock problem. An angle grinder is going to create a mess unless you can do the job outside and keeping the sparks off of the frame paint will require some real care.

A cheaper, neater and quieter solution is a Dremel with a fiber reinforced cut off wheel. I paid less than $40 for mine at Home Depot or Lowes (not sure which) and it came with a whole kit of accessories. It will take longer than the angle grinder but you have plenty of time, right? Also, when you are done, you will still own one of the most useful power tools ever made.
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Just take them downtown, leave them next to an alley, wait in your car, and someone will come along and take the lock off for you.
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I understand, but having grown up in an era when we didn't laugh at our own jokes, and had to write without LOLs or emoticons, I'm not about to start now. If folks don't see humor by reading between the lines, it's their loss, not mine.
Let's just wait for the "Can this Colnago be repaired?' thread...
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A cheaper, neater and quieter solution is a Dremel with a fiber reinforced cut off wheel. I paid less than $40 for mine at Home Depot or Lowes (not sure which) and it came with a whole kit of accessories. It will take longer than the angle grinder but you have plenty of time, right? Also, when you are done, you will still own one of the most useful power tools ever made.
Thanks HillRider, I'll look into this and yes, I'm in no real hurry. I got other bikes to ride and to work on too! The bike tied up is spotless and really nothing needs to be done on it. That is, that I want to pursue.

BTW, thanks everyone for all the 3rd rate comedy! I'm ROFL!!!!
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I was just gonna buy a dremmel tool for a ski project I'm working on. too bad I don't have a kriptonite lock without akey...
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cut one of these this past spring/summer. yes to the sparks and noisy too, but my angle grinder worked great
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Well finally got it cut the other day. Sent the carcass to Kryptonite for a replacement.



Really there wasn't that much of a deterrent that I provided to would-be robbers. I took the wheels off one bike and managed to get the bikes out the door and down the steps pretty easily. Other than having to cut the lock, there really wasn't that much of a deterrent. I thought I made it had to get it out the door of my place, guess it will be plan B next time.

The shackle really is 18mm! That is about the diameter of a dime, as shown. I ended up going to Home Depot and asking about renting an angle grinder. They told me theirs are step up to cut concrete and I should just look into buying one. I ended up doing that. I never realized they were so cheap! I got a $30 Chinese make, Ryoby? Anyways I went ahead and bought a cutting blade too, another $5. I'm pretty sure I can sell the grinder on ebay for ~20 since it's practically new.

I did manage to keep the little cut out piece. If someone wants to mess with it, go ahead and pm me.

Thanks for everyone's help with this.
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Sent the carcass to Kryptonite for a replacement.
I'm confused. Why? They don't owe you one for any reason, do they?
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I'm confused. Why? They don't owe you one for any reason, do they?
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