adio3x

Greetings all!

I have a punctured inner tube on a deep dish carbon wheel (88mm) and I'm having a hard time taking the tire off. I've been using the Park levers on my 42mms, but it just does not have a long enough handle to reach the spokes. Does anyone know of a company that makes an extender lever? Any suggestions? Thanks.

~Andrew

FBinNY 

I assume you want one that's not only long enough to reach the spokes, but also can hook to them. To my knowledge the longest levers are those made by Pedros, but they have large screwdriver type handles and so can't hook on.

OTOH, In almost 50 years of removing tires, I've never used the spoke hook feature, and I don't know any pro mechanics that do. Most experienced mechanics use only two levers, and so have no need for the feature.

adio3x

Yep, sorry forgot to add that.

The other problem is, I'm using continental 700x25c gatorskin clinchers, its a struggle to even get those off a 42mm rim, but using ones that clasp onto spokes, makes it 10 times easier.

FBinNY 

As I said, I don't know of any super long levers with a hook. Possibly someone else does.

OTOH, you might find some stiff wire and form an S-hook the right size to hold the lever to the spokes.

ragtoplvr

If I had a hard to demount tire I would not be looking for longer tire irons, I would be looking for a different tire. If I had to I would take the rim with me to the LBS and search for an easy one. Flats are a fact of the bicycling life. Not being able to fix one on the road is a big problem.

Rod

LesterOfPuppets

I'd probably get a bead jack tire lever.

https://www.aebike.com/Kool-Stop-Tire...FdSUfgodkg0ASA

My first answer was : Motorcycle tire levers are REALLY long.

Then I read the part about spoke hooks and they don't have 'em and they're metal, which you may not want to have up against plastic rims.

dsbrantjr

I'm with ragtoplvr, if you can't dismount it without an heroic effort at home, what are you going to do on the road, in the rain when it is getting dark? I won't run a tire/rim combination I cannot readily change with cold, wet hands. If you need tools to do it you had damned well better have them with you.

LesterOfPuppets

I knew I had a pic of some. 240mm!!!


Untitled by Lester Luallin, on Flickr

rm -rf

My tires are very tight on my Kinlin aluminum rims. Even with just one bead mounted, and no tube, I can't slide the tire around the rim to align the label with the valve hole. That's tight. I struggled with mangled levers and sore fingers before I found a new, easier method.

If I tried to hook the first lever on a spoke, it's way, way too tight to even get the second lever under the tire bead.

Instead, I use two levers, pull both at once, and see if they are far enough apart to start sliding a lever sideways. (I cut the hooks off the levers in my seat bag to save space!)

Too close together:



I let the levers flip back up, and the bead back down into the rim, and moved them farther apart a couple of times until there was enough slack to start sliding a lever to do the rest of the bead:



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I only need one lever to put the tire back on. The key is to lift less than an inch of bead at a time, then slide over and repeat. It's fast and easy.



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Smooth backed levers are good to allow the bead to slide down easily. And rounded tips will avoid pinching the tube. These are Continental levers. I think Pedro levers have a similar shape, and are easier to find.

curbtender

I don't know if I'd go there with steel levers on a carbon rim.

JohnDThompson 

The bead jack is great for installing a difficult tire, but no help at all in removing one.

fiatjeepdriver

Have you tried a quick stick? I use those wire bead gator skins for winter tires and that is the only lever I've been able to get to work.

IthaDan 

Park TL-10?

Leebo

Try three levers.

Looigi

One lever to remove and no levers to install. Using talc to lube the bead helps a lot. Talc on the tube helps keep it from getting pinched during installation. Start and finish near the stem. Ensure bead you're working on is in the groove in the middle of the rim.

Amesja

Also, make sure you are getting the bead pushed down into the lower portion of the rim. If you don't do that then you are going to have a bad time.

Some rim/tire combinations just suck though. This is one more reason why I don't run skinny tires. I can mount/dismount my 28's with my fingers -even on Sun CR18 rims which are notorious for running large and being hard to mount tires on.

fietsbob

yea, all 3 set & pulled down at the same time ..

Tight ? I like VAR's tire tools , pairs of them to put them back on ..

LesterOfPuppets

Oops. Yes indeed.

Hendo252 

ditto. QwikStik is cheap, works great and you only need one.

https://www.rei.com/product/546083/qu...k-tire-changer

my $0.02.

adio3x

TL-1

I'll look into that, thanks!

IthaDan 

TL-10!

adio3x

O SNAP! Now thats what I need lol.

buffalowings

[QUOTE=adio3x;16486356]O SNAP! Now thats what I need lol.[/QUOTmE]

I would take it to the lbs, with the right tire and wheel combo, yoiu shouldn't need that parktool monstrosity.

Gnosis

I concur. He shouldn't need that Park Tools monstrosity.

adio3x

The quik stik + a lever did it. Took some elbow grease to get it going, but I eventually got it off. Thanks all.