Recommend an inexpensive repair stand (or should I get panniers instead?)
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Recommend an inexpensive repair stand (or should I get panniers instead?)
My parents have offered a repair stand as a birthday gift, somewhere in the under-$200 price range. It would need to be something easy to keep out of the way, as I live in a smallish apartment with two housemates. I'm also contemplating the idea of getting a set of panniers instead, since my bikes are my primary transportation, and I'm typically limited by the capacity of my messenger bag and rack with cargo net.
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It's pretty simple. You can't carry anything on a repair stand, and you can't hang a bike from panniers to work on it.
So, only you can answer whether carrying capacity or the convenience of a workstand are more important to you. But also consider the ease of workarounds, ie improvised ways or carrying something, or working on your bike.
So, only you can answer whether carrying capacity or the convenience of a workstand are more important to you. But also consider the ease of workarounds, ie improvised ways or carrying something, or working on your bike.
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Two mutually exclusive choices. As FB recommended consider workarounds for both and decide which is more likely to be adequate.
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If it were me, I would get the panniers first. I personally hate carrying things in a backpack on my bike, and as a daily bike commuter I make use of my panniers every single day.
Having said that, I received a Park Tool PCS-10 stand for Christmas and it has made working on my bike such a pleasure that in the last couple of months I've been motivated to fix several long-term issues that had always seemed like too much of a hassle to work on before yet too minor to merit taking the bike in to the LBS.
Having said that, I received a Park Tool PCS-10 stand for Christmas and it has made working on my bike such a pleasure that in the last couple of months I've been motivated to fix several long-term issues that had always seemed like too much of a hassle to work on before yet too minor to merit taking the bike in to the LBS.
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My parents have offered a repair stand as a birthday gift, somewhere in the under-$200 price range. It would need to be something easy to keep out of the way, as I live in a smallish apartment with two housemates. I'm also contemplating the idea of getting a set of panniers instead, since my bikes are my primary transportation, and I'm typically limited by the capacity of my messenger bag and rack with cargo net.
Sounds like you don't need either. Can you guess what you actually need?
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My primary transportation is bicycle, and I prefer a milk crate to panniers. Securely-fastened with zip-tires and I never worry about someone stealing it. Whereas with panniers, I'd have to remove them from the bike when I get to my destination.
I love having a repair stand, but the ones I've used aren't space-efficient ways to store a bike. If you go with a repair stand, consider one that folds up.
I love having a repair stand, but the ones I've used aren't space-efficient ways to store a bike. If you go with a repair stand, consider one that folds up.
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My primary transportation is bicycle, and I prefer a milk crate to panniers. Securely-fastened with zip-tires and I never worry about someone stealing it. Whereas with panniers, I'd have to remove them from the bike when I get to my destination.
I love having a repair stand, but the ones I've used aren't space-efficient ways to store a bike. If you go with a repair stand, consider one that folds up.
I love having a repair stand, but the ones I've used aren't space-efficient ways to store a bike. If you go with a repair stand, consider one that folds up.
I'm not thinking of a repair stand as a way to store a bike...it would be kept folded up and out of the way most of the time. Are there people out there who actually use repair stands for storage?
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Sorry, I misread what you meant about "easy to keep out of the way" with the stand.
And I need to remember that, as my username implies, I am really tall, which means that I can swing my leg over a milk crate without difficulty (note that it is well below my saddle). For many people, the milk crate is as at or above saddle height, and thus an inconvenience for mounting the bike.
And I need to remember that, as my username implies, I am really tall, which means that I can swing my leg over a milk crate without difficulty (note that it is well below my saddle). For many people, the milk crate is as at or above saddle height, and thus an inconvenience for mounting the bike.
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Yeah, the basket doesn't fit my Volpe or Sports correctly, anyway...the saddles on both get in the way. It might work better on the Panasonic I'm building up, but a replacement mounting bracket is annoyingly pricy.
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My parents have offered a repair stand as a birthday gift, somewhere in the under-$200 price range. It would need to be something easy to keep out of the way, as I live in a smallish apartment with two housemates. I'm also contemplating the idea of getting a set of panniers instead, since my bikes are my primary transportation, and I'm typically limited by the capacity of my messenger bag and rack with cargo net.
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I use this repair stand. Works very well for me and I make frequent use of it. Good price too. Also, it folds up enough to fit comfortably in the closet; I live in a small apartment with three other roommates and it has never been in the way.
https://www.amazon.com/BIKEHAND-Cycle...e+repair+stand
https://www.amazon.com/BIKEHAND-Cycle...e+repair+stand
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There are similar stands on eBay for even cheaper. Maybe your parents would be cool with buying you both if you could point them to products with the right prices? Also, there's always the option of "kittiers": DIY panniers made from kitty litter buckets. Google "kitty litter panniers". I use one myself (instead of two, because already one is more capacity than I need!)
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I would suggest a cheap stand like this
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Bracke...859T7J6C7PWVDP
and panniers like this
https://www.amazon.com/Ortlieb-Front-...tlieb+panniers
This would cost less than the $200.
I guess I should have asked what types of repairs are you planning to do with a repair stand?
I like the idea of getting a good set of panniers, since you commute, you will get lots of use out of them and with these nothing would ever get wet.
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Bracke...859T7J6C7PWVDP
and panniers like this
https://www.amazon.com/Ortlieb-Front-...tlieb+panniers
This would cost less than the $200.
I guess I should have asked what types of repairs are you planning to do with a repair stand?
I like the idea of getting a good set of panniers, since you commute, you will get lots of use out of them and with these nothing would ever get wet.
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I've never had a repair I couldn't do by turning my bicycle upside down; I've done every repair, including brazing the seat tube back into the bottom bracket. (I have forgotten to remove the computer and cracked its bezel, and the light and busted it, but that's my fault.) I bought the Nashbar cheap stand (that just holds up the rear wheel); it's been convenient and worth $15.
I've had panniers for 35 years and wouldn't go without.
I've had panniers for 35 years and wouldn't go without.
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I would suggest a cheap stand like this
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Bracke...859T7J6C7PWVDP
and panniers like this
https://www.amazon.com/Ortlieb-Front-...tlieb+panniers
This would cost less than the $200.
I guess I should have asked what types of repairs are you planning to do with a repair stand?
I like the idea of getting a good set of panniers, since you commute, you will get lots of use out of them and with these nothing would ever get wet.
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Bracke...859T7J6C7PWVDP
and panniers like this
https://www.amazon.com/Ortlieb-Front-...tlieb+panniers
This would cost less than the $200.
I guess I should have asked what types of repairs are you planning to do with a repair stand?
I like the idea of getting a good set of panniers, since you commute, you will get lots of use out of them and with these nothing would ever get wet.
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If you're handy you can always build a stand with a few 2x4's, some screws and a couple bike hooks. Costs less than $25 bucks... (if you have a drill/saw)
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Over the last 40 years I have been doing all my own repairs and have worked at a couple of shops in some of those years. I was too cheap to get a park tool stand until 5 yrs ago. I was able to work on all of my bikes with that "not terribly useful" stand. This includes full builds and full maintenance with the exception of frame work. Most people don't need a repair stand, its just makes it easier.
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Over the last 40 years I have been doing all my own repairs and have worked at a couple of shops in some of those years. I was too cheap to get a park tool stand until 5 yrs ago. I was able to work on all of my bikes with that "not terribly useful" stand. This includes full builds and full maintenance with the exception of frame work. Most people don't need a repair stand, its just makes it easier.
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Having both wheels on the ground will stand up to fighting a stuck bottom bracket, a vice will help get a bottom bracket unstuck, pb blaster will help with a stuck bottom bracket. Will a repair stand help with a stuck bottom bracket when the leverage point is at the seat post?
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The Park Tool PCS-9 or PCS-10 allows it to be folded and I store mine behind the door. Here in land-scarce Singapore, space is a premium and being able to store is top priority. I also commute to work some times and panniers is the only way for me. I too, don't like to carry my stuff in a backpack as the climate here would soon have my backpack adhering to my back with perspiration. So the gist of the issue is, which is used more, the workstand or the panniers? Having both these items, I would say (strictly my opinion) that the panniers got more mileage. Both items were from Christmases past which I cherish but the workstand gets only occasional use while the panniers would be used 95% of the rides, be it spare clothes or food or just groceries.
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I bought a repair stand a couple years ago. Easier for some things, no different for others and I have to stash it away. So it is nice, but not a huge deal.
But I have a garage to work in and many do not.... which makes a big difference.
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I use this repair stand. Works very well for me and I make frequent use of it. Good price too. Also, it folds up enough to fit comfortably in the closet; I live in a small apartment with three other roommates and it has never been in the way.
https://www.amazon.com/BIKEHAND-Cycle...e+repair+stand
https://www.amazon.com/BIKEHAND-Cycle...e+repair+stand
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