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    Which tool for Campy BB Nuovo Record

    Hey all, just bought this Campy Nouvo BB. Not sure which tool to use for it. Any one know for certain? Thanks!
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    the Campag tool parts numbers are 712, 712/1 for the left side, and 713 for the right/drive side.

    JDT does pictures, below, better. may have answers for everything already on his harddrive

    the 712/1 is on top, 713 is on the bottom
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    These ones, or any of the numerous clones thereof:


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    Right; awesome. But does anyone else make them that isn't campy?! So expensive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by apg View Post
    Right; awesome. But does anyone else make them that isn't campy?! So expensive!
    Sure. Lots of alternatives: Park, Cyclus, probably others. Your LBS probably has some.

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    Almost any hook spanner will work, pin spanners are extremely common, and there are many ways to deal with the fixed cup - you can used a fixed cup tool (retail or homemade) that does not care what the cup flats are or any BB wrench with the right size opening (measure in mm) held in place with a bolt and large washers or even the spindle, crank and spacers.
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    As above, any of the clones will do. I have a set of Sugino bottom bracket wrenches that I've had for 30 years and they work on a NR bottom bracket perfectly.

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    I have a lockring tool and spanner that I bought 35+ years ago. I've used them twice in the last 25 years, and probably not often in the first 10+ either. When I used it the next to last time, on my custom built Davidson from 1981, I was surprised to see that the bearings were all still good, the races were smooth. It all felt smooth too before I opened it. I was going to replace the Zeus BB with a modern Chorus 10 with cartridge bearings but I couldn't get the fixed cup off. I put the old BB back on and put the new cranks on the old BB. That was 5 years ago, and still smooth.

    Moral of the story, it isn't a tool you use that much but it is nice to have when you need it.

    And to the OP, you can come to Brooklyn to use them if you'd like. You can't borrow them though, I know what happens to borrowed tools. You can also check the Times Up bike coop for open workshop days. They should have all the tools there.
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    the right side , fixed cup needs to be quite tight ...maybe get the tools for the left side ,
    so you can remove and clean and re grease the bearings frequently
    to preserve your investment in that classic part.

    But a shop may have both one of those fixed cup tools Plus an additional one
    to hold the wrench on the 2 flats firmly ..

    otherwise they do slip off a lot , and it is harder to get it tight enough..

    (though the pedal-wrench on the other end comes in Handy .. )

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    Pretty much all of the tools and BB's manufactured back in the day have the same dimensions and you can use the same tools in all of them with the exception of one or two and even with those ones you can use the same tools aswell.

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    I have these ones but for the fixed cup I use a made bolt type of tool, is the same principle than the bolt but with cast pieces and stuff, really heavy duty. Works better and you wont scratch the paint by accident.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post
    As above, any of the clones will do. I have a set of Sugino bottom bracket wrenches that I've had for 30 years and they work on a NR bottom bracket perfectly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zacster View Post
    I have a lockring tool and spanner that I bought 35+ years ago. I've used them twice in the last 25 years, and probably not often in the first 10+ either. When I used it the next to last time, on my custom built Davidson from 1981, I was surprised to see that the bearings were all still good, the races were smooth. It all felt smooth too before I opened it. I was going to replace the Zeus BB with a modern Chorus 10 with cartridge bearings but I couldn't get the fixed cup off. I put the old BB back on and put the new cranks on the old BB. That was 5 years ago, and still smooth.

    Moral of the story, it isn't a tool you use that much but it is nice to have when you need it.

    And to the OP, you can come to Brooklyn to use them if you'd like. You can't borrow them though, I know what happens to borrowed tools. You can also check the Times Up bike coop for open workshop days. They should have all the tools there.
    Would love to use them! Can I visit one weekend? I'm at ashley@quietforce.com
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