Shimano 10-speed chain, are they all perfectly compatible with 5600 & 6600 casettes?
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Shimano 10-speed chain, are they all perfectly compatible with 5600 & 6600 casettes?
It's possible to buy a huge variety of Shimano 10-speed chain, including: 4600, 5600, 5700, 6600, 6700 and that does not include Dura Ace.
I'm using 105 series 5603 cranks and 5600 and 6600 cassettes. From a compatibility prospective, are all these chains equal? Are the newer 4600, 5700 and 6700 equal to the earlier items from the same series?
I'm using 105 series 5603 cranks and 5600 and 6600 cassettes. From a compatibility prospective, are all these chains equal? Are the newer 4600, 5700 and 6700 equal to the earlier items from the same series?
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Yes, a 10s chain is a 10s chain is a 10s chain.
Any chain of the right width will work on any matching (ie. 10s vs 9s) drivetrain. Not only any model, but any brand.
There are possibly differences in material, construction or weight. Also in the precise shapes of the plates which can slightly affect shift performance, but these don't affect running performance.
Any chain of the right width will work on any matching (ie. 10s vs 9s) drivetrain. Not only any model, but any brand.
There are possibly differences in material, construction or weight. Also in the precise shapes of the plates which can slightly affect shift performance, but these don't affect running performance.
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Some of the newest Shimano 10-speed chains, particularly 5700 and 6700, are "directional" and should be installed in a specific orientation as specified on the included installation sheet. Also, these chains are not recommended for use on triple cranks although no one seems to be able to explain why. The earlier 5600 and 6600 chains are more of a universal fit.
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Some of the newest Shimano 10-speed chains, particularly 5700 and 6700, are "directional" and should be installed in a specific orientation as specified on the included installation sheet. Also, these chains are not recommended for use on triple cranks although no one seems to be able to explain why. The earlier 5600 and 6600 chains are more of a universal fit.
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The Shimano 10 speed Dyna-sys chains are slightly different, made specifically for that system. But I'm using a KMC chain on my DS setup and it works just fine. Would a Shimano chain work better? I can't say.
That said, this is the first time I'm using a chain that isn't specific to the line of components. I always put Campy chains, Record usually, on my Chorus 10 setup, and Shimano 10sp chains on my bike with the Shimano wheels.
And there is another exception, now that I think about it, I have a Shimano 9sp Ultegra chain on my bike that has a Chorus 10sp cassette, but using friction shifting. It works well and doesn't rub at all. I read that back in the early days of Campy 10 speed it was found this combo worked as a good alternative to expensive Campy chains. This combination is an accident of circumstances, I had new wheels on my Chorus 10 bike, and this bike already had the 9 speed chain. I took the old wheel, put it on and just tried it without knowing.
The bottom line here is that most combos work within the same number of speeds, the spec on Shimano and Campy are the same, and 3rd party chains all work.
That said, this is the first time I'm using a chain that isn't specific to the line of components. I always put Campy chains, Record usually, on my Chorus 10 setup, and Shimano 10sp chains on my bike with the Shimano wheels.
And there is another exception, now that I think about it, I have a Shimano 9sp Ultegra chain on my bike that has a Chorus 10sp cassette, but using friction shifting. It works well and doesn't rub at all. I read that back in the early days of Campy 10 speed it was found this combo worked as a good alternative to expensive Campy chains. This combination is an accident of circumstances, I had new wheels on my Chorus 10 bike, and this bike already had the 9 speed chain. I took the old wheel, put it on and just tried it without knowing.
The bottom line here is that most combos work within the same number of speeds, the spec on Shimano and Campy are the same, and 3rd party chains all work.
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I've followed Shimano's recommendations and used CN-5600 and CN-6600 chains on my triple crank bikes but even Shimano's tech reps (I called and asked) don't know why the 5700/6700 chains aren't recommended for triple use.
Update: I just looked at Shimano's web site and the most recent CN-5701 and CN-6701 chains no longer have the "double chainring only" disclaimer on the web site description or their installation instruction sheet. I don't know if they really redesigned the chains or just found the limitation wasn't necessary.
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Yes but the CN-5700 is a 105 level chain and there is a FC-5703 triple crank and RD-5700-GS and FD-5703 triple specified rear and front derailleurs are part of the current 105 group.
I've followed Shimano's recommendations and used CN-5600 and CN-6600 chains on my triple crank bikes but even Shimano's tech reps (I called and asked) don't know why the 5700/6700 chains aren't recommended for triple use.
Update: I just looked at Shimano's web site and the most recent CN-5701 and CN-6701 chains no longer have the "double chainring only" disclaimer on the web site description or their installation instruction sheet. I don't know if they really redesigned the chains or just found the limitation wasn't necessary.
I've followed Shimano's recommendations and used CN-5600 and CN-6600 chains on my triple crank bikes but even Shimano's tech reps (I called and asked) don't know why the 5700/6700 chains aren't recommended for triple use.
Update: I just looked at Shimano's web site and the most recent CN-5701 and CN-6701 chains no longer have the "double chainring only" disclaimer on the web site description or their installation instruction sheet. I don't know if they really redesigned the chains or just found the limitation wasn't necessary.
https://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830702207.pdf
But as others have pointed out the reason isn't well known.
I dont put put the miles on that some do, so don't wear out chins often. So I just use the recommended chains.
as an old geezer that rode for years with friction shifters, I just love the new index stuff... Amazingly fast and positive shifting.
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