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    Veloplugs

    Has anyone tried these Veloplugs from an Australian wheel company as a replacement for rim tape? They do look interesting but are quite expensive at about $1 each. They are supposedly about 1/3 the weight of rim tape, but adding another $60 or more to a set of rims seems excessive. They look to me like they stick up higher than tape would, but they must not have caused too much trouble during testing.

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    A solution looking for a problem, or a weight weinie... Andy.

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    An entire roll of 17 mm wide Velox rim tape weighs about 15 grams. Is it really worth about a $60 difference to save 20 grams total?

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    I've considered Veloplugs because my tires are very difficult to mount. Replacing the Velox with Veloplugs would reduce the amount of stress needed to stretch the tire bead while levering it over the rim. But I had no idea how expensive they are.

    The reviewer says that rim tape is not reusable. Not true, Velox can be reused many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al1943 View Post
    I've considered Veloplugs because my tires are very difficult to mount. Replacing the Velox with Veloplugs would reduce the amount of stress needed to stretch the tire bead while levering it over the rim. But I had no idea how expensive they are.
    That's why i bought them for a set of wheels with rims that appeared to be just a touch oversize and therefore hard to mount tires on with regular rim tape. Certainly had nothing to do with saving weight. They did make tire mounting easier - and the price is not as outrageous as in the OP - $13 for two or three wheels depending on spoke count:
    Velocity Veloplugs Bike Rim Hole Velo Plugs Covers for 8mm Holes 72 Count Red | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    That's why i bought them for a set of wheels with rims that appeared to be just a touch oversize and therefore hard to mount tires on with regular rim tape. Certainly had nothing to do with saving weight. They did make tire mounting easier - and the price is not as outrageous as in the OP - $13 for two or three wheels depending on spoke count:
    Velocity Veloplugs Bike Rim Hole Velo Plugs Covers for 8mm Holes 72 Count Red | eBay
    Thanks for the link. Apparently they are color coded for size.
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    How does rim tape make mounting tires harder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    How does rim tape make mounting tires harder?
    The idea when mounting a tire is to get almost all of the bead down as far as possible into the deepest part of the channel in the rim. That frees up a little slack on the last piece of the bead that you're trying to get over the lip of the rim and, in principle, lets you slip it over without much force. Anything (like rim tape) that's in the channel keeps the bead from getting down in there as far and makes the process a bit harder.

    Veloplugs only occupy space right at the spoke holes and are pretty thin even there. I found them to be well worth their cost on these particular rims but haven't used them on my other wheels which are easier for mounting tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    How does rim tape make mounting tires harder?
    As you mount a clincher tire, the portion of the tire's bead that's already mounted sits in the channel of the rim, on the rim tape. The thicker the rim tape, the larger the diameter of the channel where the tire's bead sits as you mount the tire. The larger that diameter is, the tighter the fit of the tire as you mount it. It's not much, but it does make a difference when dealing with very tight-fitting tire/rim combos. Velo plugs eliminate the thickness of the rim tape entirely. Can make a noticeable difference in mounting the tire with a very tight tire/rim combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Miyata Biker View Post
    Has anyone tried these Veloplugs from an Australian wheel company as a replacement for rim tape?
    Yes.

    They do look interesting but are quite expensive at about $1 each. They are supposedly about 1/3 the weight of rim tape, but adding another $60 or more to a set of rims seems excessive. They look to me like they stick up higher than tape would, but they must not have caused too much trouble during testing.
    They're thinner than thick rim tape like Velox which I measured at .021" and made the difference between being able to get Continentals on Kinlin XR300s for me without tools and not.

    1 mil Kapton tape is the thinnest (.0054" total for the two layers required), weighs 1.25 grams for a 24 spoke wheel if you care to cut it up into 3/4" strips for the ultimate weight weenie experience or just 5 grams when you use two full wraps, and it's under $0.50 a wheel if you go for two full wraps starting with a pair of 36 yard rolls off Ebay for $7.50 shipped. Use 3/4" for wide rims and 5/8" for traditional. It let me mount Continentals on my Velocity Fusions without tools where the Velocity Velo Plugs did not.
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    I have Veloplugs on my Velocity Deep-V rims. near 60 miles so far and they are doing fine! Yes, harder to install than tape, but my tires went on a lot easier, as well.

    Where did ANYONE come up with the $60 figure or $1/hole? They are $13-17 (depends where you buy them) for 72 plugs. I used 64 so I have a few backup

    More expensive than Velox, sure. But they work, and work well!
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    Interesting, thanks for the explanations. I may try this product the next time I build clincher wheels.
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    Could one simply apply 1" pieces of electrical tape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    The idea when mounting a tire is to get almost all of the bead down as far as possible into the deepest part of the channel in the rim. That frees up a little slack on the last piece of the bead that you're trying to get over the lip of the rim and, in principle, lets you slip it over without much force. Anything (like rim tape) that's in the channel keeps the bead from getting down in there as far and makes the process a bit harder.
    Exactly. I have a 17" (Moulton size) Sun M13 rim- it's narrow and has a shallow well in the middle. With a Velox rim strip, it's impossible to mount a tire. I eventually switched to using two layers of fiberglass packaging tape from a rim strip, which made mounting a tire merely very difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyl View Post
    Could one simply apply 1" pieces of electrical tape?
    No. Electrical tape is too stretchy. It will stretch around the spoke holes and cause blow outs, or rather, "blow-ins". As above, an alternative is fiberglass-reinforced packaging tape. I found (somewhere) a role that's 3/8" wide- perfect for narrow rims. Two layers works well.
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    I have them in a set of wheels I bought used. I like them, but didn't have to pay full price.

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    I have found that Continental Easy Tape works well as a replacement for Velox tape. It is much thinner and slipperier (is that a real word?) and makes mounting tight tires significantly easier. Continental Bicycle -Rim Strip

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    I'm Thinking,
    If 1 spoke needs replacing you wont have to remove the whole rim tape, to get to it's nipple ,

    & it will help you not lose track of which spoke you replaced , as you re tension the wheel ,

    if, you dont put it back in, before you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
    The idea when mounting a tire is to get almost all of the bead down as far as possible into the deepest part of the channel in the rim. That frees up a little slack on the last piece of the bead that you're trying to get over the lip of the rim and, in principle, lets you slip it over without much force. Anything (like rim tape) that's in the channel keeps the bead from getting down in there as far and makes the process a bit harder.

    Veloplugs only occupy space right at the spoke holes and are pretty thin even there. I found them to be well worth their cost on these particular rims but haven't used them on my other wheels which are easier for mounting tires.





    i dont get how platic weights less than just rimtape, it has almost no weight to it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt View Post
    1 mil Kapton tape is the thinnest (.0054" total for the two layers required), weighs 1.25 grams for a 24 spoke wheel if you care to cut it up into 3/4" strips for the ultimate weight weenie experience, and it's under $0.50 a wheel if you go for two full wraps starting with a pair of 36 yard rolls off Ebay for $7.50 shipped. Use 3/4" for wide rims and 5/8" for traditional. It let me mount Continentals on my Velocity Fusions without tools where the Velocity Velo Plugs did not.
    That is a good tip; I'm no weight weenie, but I'm a super penny pincher, and it sounds like $7.50 would get me a lifetime supply of rim tape!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Wills View Post
    No. Electrical tape is too stretchy. It will stretch around the spoke holes and cause blow outs, or rather, "blow-ins". As above, an alternative is fiberglass-reinforced packaging tape. I found (somewhere) a role that's 3/8" wide- perfect for narrow rims. Two layers works well.
    Kapton is thinner - .0054" for two layers of 1-mil tape versus .0132" for two layers of Scotch 898 Filament Tape.

    Its silicon adhesive is much easier to remove and leaves no residue.

    If you really want you can easily cut a hole, replace a spoke, and put two 3/4" strips over the hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart View Post
    A solution looking for a problem, or a weight weinie... Andy.
    My Problem: Tire rim combo mounting difficulty is a 10, High pressure and narrow, IN ADDITION large nipple holes (OD of rim). small mystery punctures (aggravating). Theory, extreme bead pushes tape away from hole exposing edge causing flats. Solution was VeloPLugs and they didn't cost $60 more like $17.

    I have another wheel set on a commuter with them with over 25,000 miles... zero issues.

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    Just be sure the pkugs are smooth all around or they will puncture your tubes. There are sometimes rough burrs on the plugs from the injection molding process that need to be filed smooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt View Post
    Kapton is thinner - .0054" for two layers of 1-mil tape versus .0132" for two layers of Scotch 898 Filament Tape.

    Its silicon adhesive is much easier to remove and leaves no residue.

    If you really want you can easily cut a hole, replace a spoke, and put two 3/4" strips over the hole.
    Thanks for the tip. I've ordered the Kapton tape.

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    Two layers of 3/4" 1mil Kapton tape is 5 gm per wheel. Two 3/4" x 3/4" pieces over each hole and it will weigh ~1.25 gm for a 24 spoke wheel.

    3/4" is good for wider rims like Pacenti SL23 or HED C2. 5/8" is best for trad 19mm rims, and even lighter!

    Using two 3/4" squares on a 24 hole rim means you can do 36 wheels/roll. That's < 25 cents per wheel.
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