C&V Rear Wheel Source?
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C&V Rear Wheel Source?
Need a supply source for a complete, new rear 700C wheel assembly, threaded to accept a freewheel hub. Thanks.
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Any shop will have a couple of suppliers of cheap bike parts including wheels. There is nothing c and v about this type of wheel.
- joel
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What would be more useful is to know the drop out spacing & number of cogs & desired width.
A lot of people like the Sun Rims CR-18 for a somewhat vintage look.
Or if you want skinny-
M13 II's
Amazon.com : Wheel Master 700c Road Rear Wheel - Sun M13 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Spd FW, QR, Silver : Bike Wheels : Sports & Outdoors
A lot of people like the Sun Rims CR-18 for a somewhat vintage look.
Or if you want skinny-
M13 II's
Amazon.com : Wheel Master 700c Road Rear Wheel - Sun M13 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Spd FW, QR, Silver : Bike Wheels : Sports & Outdoors
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What would be more useful is to know the drop out spacing & number of cogs & desired width.
A lot of people like the Sun Rims CR-18 for a somewhat vintage look.
Or if you want skinny-
M13 II's
Amazon.com : Wheel Master 700c Road Rear Wheel - Sun M13 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Spd FW, QR, Silver : Bike Wheels : Sports & Outdoors
A lot of people like the Sun Rims CR-18 for a somewhat vintage look.
Or if you want skinny-
M13 II's
Amazon.com : Wheel Master 700c Road Rear Wheel - Sun M13 Rim, 36H, 5/6/7-Spd FW, QR, Silver : Bike Wheels : Sports & Outdoors
Thank you, Bill. I can certainly take those measurements, but rather than take the chance of pluggin in the numbers and ordering on line, I was hoping to find an experienced supplier who could work through it briefly with me over the phone, then build and send me the wheel I need. I could try my LBS, but they're not so much into the older stuff. Which I do understand.
I found this guy - might be the one:
Peter White Cycles Home Page
Or perhaps someone else here knows of another source as well.
Best. Duane Behrens
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Is there some compelling reason you don't want a free hub?
It'd be a lot easier to point you to a source if you gave the details of the wheel you need.
OTOH, you must have a lot of money to spend?
It'd be a lot easier to point you to a source if you gave the details of the wheel you need.
OTOH, you must have a lot of money to spend?
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I have a bunch of various qualities. Give more details and maybe I have something for you.
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Thank you, Bill. I can certainly take those measurements, but rather than take the chance of pluggin in the numbers and ordering on line, I was hoping to find an experienced supplier who could work through it briefly with me over the phone, then build and send me the wheel I need. I could try my LBS, but they're not so much into the older stuff. Which I do understand.
I found this guy - might be the one:
Peter White Cycles Home Page
Or perhaps someone else here knows of another source as well.
Best. Duane Behrens
I found this guy - might be the one:
Peter White Cycles Home Page
Or perhaps someone else here knows of another source as well.
Best. Duane Behrens
Peter builds great wheels, and does not have much patience for people who have not read his site completely and who have not done their home work.
For 7 speed stuff, Peter has some 126mm OLD 32H Shimano HG freehub hubs that are very nice. You need 7 speed cassettes to go with them - Niagara Cycle has a nice selection. That would be better than almost any freewheel choice - except Phil Wood.
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Duane, talk to FBinNY! He knows how to build quality wheels.
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ditto Most So Cal Pro Bike shops .
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Here's a complete set so you can have matching rims for about the cost of parts-
Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear 36/32 [74438f front & 72385 rear] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear 36/32 [74438f front & 72385 rear] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
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Thank you, Bill. I can certainly take those measurements, but rather than take the chance of pluggin in the numbers and ordering on line, I was hoping to find an experienced supplier who could work through it briefly with me over the phone, then build and send me the wheel I need. I could try my LBS, but they're not so much into the older stuff. Which I do understand.
I found this guy - might be the one:
Peter White Cycles Home Page
Or perhaps someone else here knows of another source as well.
Best. Duane Behrens
I found this guy - might be the one:
Peter White Cycles Home Page
Or perhaps someone else here knows of another source as well.
Best. Duane Behrens
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If it works out, I'd like to replace both front and rear wheels on the Super Course. The front wheel has a small dish, apparently where the seam is, and apparently caused by over grinding that seam. kachunk-kachunk-kachunk. It's better if the steering head is properly tightened and if the brake shoes are toed in a bit . . . but it never goes away, and it's annoying.
I've now replaced the calipers with new Ultegras. I had both wheels re-laced with stainless and brass. And after 3 or 4 rides, the rear wheel has gone wonky already. I'll take it back, but geez . . .
I'm getting tired of these (admittedly beautiful) Araya wheels . . .
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Here's a complete set so you can have matching rims for about the cost of parts-
Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear 36/32 [74438f front & 72385 rear] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear 36/32 [74438f front & 72385 rear] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
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Do you mean a threaded hub with a spin-on freewheel? Ot do you want a freehub (ratchet mechanism is art of the hub) which takes a cassette?
It's one or the other, but not both in the same wheel.
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Sorry, guys. A "threaded hub with a spin-on freewheel" is what I want. I don't want a cassette. Thanks.
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Somebody already asked you "why"? And, you never answered.
Which puzzles me.
You aren't against upgrading parts, the fact that you upgraded the brakes tells me that you aren't that worried about maintaining the "vintage" appearance. Freehubs and cassettes exist as an improvement to the threaded wheelhub and freewheel because the axle is supported by bearings located farther out on freehubs with cassettes. There are fewer axles failures (breaks and bending) on freehubs compared to thread hubs with freewheels (especially when considering 8-speed thread wheels and freewheels vs 8-speed freehubs and cassettes. And, the appearance of a freehub and cassette is just about the same as a threaded wheelhub and freewheel.
Did you ever take your relaced wheels back to the Builder for tuning after riding on them? New spokes need a break-in period, afterwhich the wheel needs to be trued/tuned, and the spokes should stabilize if they are quality parts, properly installed.
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Somebody already asked you "why"? And, you never answered.
Which puzzles me.
You aren't against upgrading parts, the fact that you upgraded the brakes tells me that you aren't that worried about maintaining the "vintage" appearance. Freehubs and cassettes exist as an improvement to the threaded wheelhub and freewheel because the axle is supported by bearings located farther out on freehubs with cassettes. There are fewer axles failures (breaks and bending) on freehubs compared to thread hubs with freewheels (especially when considering 8-speed thread wheels and freewheels vs 8-speed freehubs and cassettes. And, the appearance of a freehub and cassette is just about the same as a threaded wheelhub and freewheel.
Did you ever take your relaced wheels back to the Builder for tuning after riding on them? New spokes need a break-in period, afterwhich the wheel needs to be trued/tuned, and the spokes should stabilize if they are quality parts, properly installed.
Which puzzles me.
You aren't against upgrading parts, the fact that you upgraded the brakes tells me that you aren't that worried about maintaining the "vintage" appearance. Freehubs and cassettes exist as an improvement to the threaded wheelhub and freewheel because the axle is supported by bearings located farther out on freehubs with cassettes. There are fewer axles failures (breaks and bending) on freehubs compared to thread hubs with freewheels (especially when considering 8-speed thread wheels and freewheels vs 8-speed freehubs and cassettes. And, the appearance of a freehub and cassette is just about the same as a threaded wheelhub and freewheel.
Did you ever take your relaced wheels back to the Builder for tuning after riding on them? New spokes need a break-in period, afterwhich the wheel needs to be trued/tuned, and the spokes should stabilize if they are quality parts, properly installed.
Unfortunately and while the brakes are very effective, it didn't stop the pulsing. The next step to try to cure it was to have the wheels re-laced with stainless steel spokes and brass nipples. I've got maybe a thousand miles on the re-built wheels. I will take your advice and return them for a first tune-up.
But the re-laced front wheel STILL pulses. Someone else here noted that it may be the result of the seam in that front wheel having been ground away a bit too much, causing a dip in the rim and creating the pulsing. That now makes sense. Which means that these OEM wheels may ALSO get removed and put away, just like the other OEM parts noted below.
I guess the reason I wanted to stay with the threaded hub and freewheel was to keep stuff interchangeable back there, and also to keep the bike SOMEWHAT period-correct. I agree that a more modern cassette would be an improvement . . . but it just sort of seems to cross a line, you know?
So far, I've carefully wrapped and placed each removed OEM component - brakes, brake hoods, sprocket assembly, FD and RD, etc. - into a box. There's a good chance the OEM wheels, with their new spokes and nipples - may join them.
And if I re-installed all those OEM parts tomorrow, I'd again have an original, possibly more valuable, but definitely less competent, Raleigh Super Course.
But this bike is just too much fun not to be ridden daily. Eh? Maybe I'll reconsider that whole freewheel vs. freehub/cassette thing. Thanks for your time and your learned response. DB
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Off-topic, but jeez, this Peter White guy sure has some seriously spiffy stuff.
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"Thumping" while braking is a RIM problem.
IF you are going to store the OEM wheels, then there's really no reason not to go to a cassette/freehub, unless you hav some very narrow drop out spacing.
Again, knowing the spacing and number of cogs........
If you have 130mm spacing and >7 cogs, things are simple.
Less on either, throws some other things into the equation.
IF you are going to store the OEM wheels, then there's really no reason not to go to a cassette/freehub, unless you hav some very narrow drop out spacing.
Again, knowing the spacing and number of cogs........
If you have 130mm spacing and >7 cogs, things are simple.
Less on either, throws some other things into the equation.
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"Thumping" while braking is a RIM problem.
IF you are going to store the OEM wheels, then there's really no reason not to go to a cassette/freehub, unless you have some very narrow drop out spacing.
Again, knowing the spacing and number of cogs........
If you have 130mm spacing and >7 cogs, things are simple.
Less on either, throws some other things into the equation.
IF you are going to store the OEM wheels, then there's really no reason not to go to a cassette/freehub, unless you have some very narrow drop out spacing.
Again, knowing the spacing and number of cogs........
If you have 130mm spacing and >7 cogs, things are simple.
Less on either, throws some other things into the equation.
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"Thumping" while braking is a RIM problem.
IF you are going to store the OEM wheels, then there's really no reason not to go to a cassette/freehub, unless you hav some very narrow drop out spacing.
Again, knowing the spacing and number of cogs........
If you have 130mm spacing and >7 cogs, things are simple.
Less on either, throws some other things into the equation.
IF you are going to store the OEM wheels, then there's really no reason not to go to a cassette/freehub, unless you hav some very narrow drop out spacing.
Again, knowing the spacing and number of cogs........
If you have 130mm spacing and >7 cogs, things are simple.
Less on either, throws some other things into the equation.
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Buy a donor bike off craigslist. I don't know how many freeheel wheelsets I have lying around from bikes I bought and upgraded, keeping the old parts.
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Here's a complete set so you can have matching rims for about the cost of parts-
Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear 36/32 [74438f front & 72385 rear] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear 36/32 [74438f front & 72385 rear] - $120.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
. . . but I need something that stops without trying to throw me over the handlebars once each revolution. :-)