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Old 12-22-14, 06:03 PM
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Thanks. I wasnt aware of those. The one I used and love looks like

I like the one you posted the picture of a lot better. Looks kind of like the Campy one.
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I think centering a rim can be done on a good solid truing stand accurately and quickly. Just flip the wheel on the stand a few times while bringing the spoke tension up to specs.
On a light weight rear road wheel the spoke tension and dish will change slightly after airing up the tire and tube. I would rather have my rim on center plane while I'm riding.
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flipping the wheel in the stand requires that the axle seats in a repeatable fashion. On my TS-2.2, I never feel comfortable that this will happen. Take the wheel out, put it back in and it's a different distance from the calipers. Not sure what's going on, probably has to do with the shaft collars

I built a dishing gauge very similar to the EVT. More work than I should have spent on it. Now I wish I had come up with my own design
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Originally Posted by Al1943
I think centering a rim can be done on a good solid truing stand accurately and quickly. Just flip the wheel on the stand a few times while bringing the spoke tension up to specs.
On a light weight rear road wheel the spoke tension and dish will change slightly after airing up the tire and tube. I would rather have my rim on center plane while I'm riding.
I can't figure why the dish would change???
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I use the Campy and the VAR daily and I have an old Wheelsmith folder for traveling. The very expensive EVT Trigger Wheel Dishing Tool is temping: EVT | Trigger Wheel Dishing Tool
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I've added a spring that fits over the sliding axle locating shaft and under it's arcing frame to my VAR. With a touch of hand/finger skill I can place the dishing tool on the wheel, the spring loaded axle shaft will be pressed up against the lock nut and I can snug up the thumb bolt to lock the shaft in place with just the one hand (the other hand is holding the wheel).

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Originally Posted by ClarkinHawaii
I can't figure why the dish would change???
I assume it is due to the hub flange and spoke tension asymmetry that modern multi-speed wheels are designed with.
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Originally Posted by Al1943
I assume it is due to the hub flange and spoke tension asymmetry that modern multi-speed wheels are designed with.
It's a tiny difference, but when you inflate a tire, the rim contracts a bit. That contraction has different effects on either side because of the differences in base tension and bracing angle.

Once one accepts the concept of tolerance in all things mechanical, then they also accept that the change is within those limits and can be disregarded.
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Originally Posted by ClarkinHawaii
I can't figure why the dish would change???
Does adding air in the tire change the spoke tension? Then I could imagine it could slightly affect the dish (if you have sub-micron truing on your wheels).

If removing and re-inserting a wheel in the stand changes the centering, then any stand centering tool will only give you a good estimate.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
It's a tiny difference, but when you inflate a tire, the rim contracts a bit. That contraction has different effects on either side because of the differences in base tension and bracing angle.

Once one accepts the concept of tolerance in all things mechanical, then they also accept that the change is within those limits and can be disregarded.
As I've said, the change is slight. But, at least in my case, the rim movement caused by air compression was toward the drive side, and correcting back to center meant adding tension to the non-drive side, and that is a good thing. The spokes most frequently broken are the non-drive side due to low tension and excess flexure in the "J" bend at the hub flange.
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