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02-28-15, 11:32 PM
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Just picked up an old mountain bike, this one has got brake levers that have "high" and "low" settings, and it's equipped with V brakes. Shouldn't that be in the "high" position? It came to me in the "low" position and the brakes seem really grabby to me. That could be just because I'm used to cantilevers, or that might be because these are old Servo-wave levers and might not be adjusted correctly. Either way, I want to be sure they are in the right setting, because if I'm not mistaken, the other setting is for cantilevers right?
Sorry, normally I feel like I'd be able to find the answer to this via googling, but all my google attempts bring up everything except the info I'm looking for.
Just picked up an old mountain bike, this one has got brake levers that have "high" and "low" settings, and it's equipped with V brakes. Shouldn't that be in the "high" position? It came to me in the "low" position and the brakes seem really grabby to me. That could be just because I'm used to cantilevers, or that might be because these are old Servo-wave levers and might not be adjusted correctly. Either way, I want to be sure they are in the right setting, because if I'm not mistaken, the other setting is for cantilevers right?
Sorry, normally I feel like I'd be able to find the answer to this via googling, but all my google attempts bring up everything except the info I'm looking for.
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I believe the settings have to do with the pull ratio. V-brakes use a unique "pull" compared with...
This stuff...The Geometry of Cantilever Brakes
This stuff...The Geometry of Cantilever Brakes
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Impossible to know what the manufacture meant by "hi and low". But the canti setting need more cable pull and the V setting less. You figure it out. Andy.
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I believe the settings have to do with the pull ratio. V-brakes use a unique "pull" compared with...
This stuff...The Geometry of Cantilever Brakes
This stuff...The Geometry of Cantilever Brakes
03-01-15, 05:55 AM
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"High" is the canty setting. "Low" is the low effort V-brake setting.
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I don't have experience with "Servo Wave", but some newer brakes-
Have a little plastic "plug" that is held in with a screw.
It can be installed in either of 2 positions foe canti's or V brakes.
I'm pretty sure from your description yours are not these.
What I gather from reading about the Servo Wave is that adjustment is somewhat critical so you get the transition from "travel" to "force" at the correct time.
They are designed for canti's.
V brakes pull more cable with less leverage. Servo Wave would probably be too much force as the pads are engaging.
To quote Sheldon-
"Shimano ("Servo-Wave" ®) and Odyssey both make mountain-bike type levers with a variable mechanical advantage that increases as the lever is pulled."
Have a little plastic "plug" that is held in with a screw.
It can be installed in either of 2 positions foe canti's or V brakes.
I'm pretty sure from your description yours are not these.
What I gather from reading about the Servo Wave is that adjustment is somewhat critical so you get the transition from "travel" to "force" at the correct time.
They are designed for canti's.
V brakes pull more cable with less leverage. Servo Wave would probably be too much force as the pads are engaging.
To quote Sheldon-
"Shimano ("Servo-Wave" ®) and Odyssey both make mountain-bike type levers with a variable mechanical advantage that increases as the lever is pulled."
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IMO there are no dumb questions on anything. To me it indicates a person is willing to learn something.
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I don't have experience with "Servo Wave", but some newer brakes-
Have a little plastic "plug" that is held in with a screw.
It can be installed in either of 2 positions foe canti's or V brakes.
I'm pretty sure from your description yours are not these.
What I gather from reading about the Servo Wave is that adjustment is somewhat critical so you get the transition from "travel" to "force" at the correct time.
They are designed for canti's.
V brakes pull more cable with less leverage. Servo Wave would probably be too much force as the pads are engaging.
To quote Sheldon-
"Shimano ("Servo-Wave" ®) and Odyssey both make mountain-bike type levers with a variable mechanical advantage that increases as the lever is pulled."
Have a little plastic "plug" that is held in with a screw.
It can be installed in either of 2 positions foe canti's or V brakes.
I'm pretty sure from your description yours are not these.
What I gather from reading about the Servo Wave is that adjustment is somewhat critical so you get the transition from "travel" to "force" at the correct time.
They are designed for canti's.
V brakes pull more cable with less leverage. Servo Wave would probably be too much force as the pads are engaging.
To quote Sheldon-
"Shimano ("Servo-Wave" ®) and Odyssey both make mountain-bike type levers with a variable mechanical advantage that increases as the lever is pulled."
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Sorry, here's the photo! (Fell asleep, I work nights; 12 hour shift + 20 mile round trip commute...)
I found the model # on the underside of the clamp: BL 600
Sorry, here's the photo! (Fell asleep, I work nights; 12 hour shift + 20 mile round trip commute...)
I found the model # on the underside of the clamp: BL 600
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It's a v-brake lever.
Exploded diagram: https://bernd.sluka.de/Fahrrad/Shiman...-M600_1997.gif
Service instructions: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...00+bl-m600.jpg
Exploded diagram: https://bernd.sluka.de/Fahrrad/Shiman...-M600_1997.gif
Service instructions: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...00+bl-m600.jpg
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It's a v-brake lever.
Exploded diagram: https://bernd.sluka.de/Fahrrad/Shiman...-M600_1997.gif
Service instructions: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...00+bl-m600.jpg
Exploded diagram: https://bernd.sluka.de/Fahrrad/Shiman...-M600_1997.gif
Service instructions: https://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/...00+bl-m600.jpg
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