Brand new tire, ruined?
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Brand new tire, ruined?
Just put on a new set of tires, went for the first ride on them, got off the bike and notice this. See pics attached. Could it have happened while installing the tire? I don't understand. Is the tire going to blow off the rim? Any hope of saving this $50 tire, or am I SOL?
EDiT: New photos after i deflated and reinflated the tire, see my other post further down.
EDiT: New photos after i deflated and reinflated the tire, see my other post further down.
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i would mark the rim and the tire at that spot, remove the tire and inspect (including rim tape) both, if there appeared to be no problem, i would, as previously mentioned, re-mount them.
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It just looks like the bead wasn't seated at that spot. Deflate the tire and reinstall. Inflate to 25 and look over it to make sure that the bead is seated and the tire looks uniform all the way around. Then inflate to full pressure.
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Have the Dealer you bought the tire Thru, Inspect it, it may be a Manufacturing Defect Or you screwed it up in the way you Installed It.
maybe as simple as prior posters suggested too
bead wire overwrap of the casing still intact ?
maybe as simple as prior posters suggested too
bead wire overwrap of the casing still intact ?
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That tire doesn't look like it will ever seat right. Defect? Probably. How old were the tires? You said "new to you" but do you know if they are new? Shouldn't have happened during the install and I've made the "pinch the tube" mistake plenty of times but never tore a bead.
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I just deflated the tire and looked at that spot, the rubber on the bead at that spot has a tear in it. i snipped off the flap that was sticking out, but you can see the bead wire sticking out. i reinflated the tire, and it's better, but there's still a bulge there. is it possible i did this to the bead while putting on the tire? I used a plastic tire lever.
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Without removing the tire and examining the bead/casing in that area it's only a guess as to whether the issue is a poorly seated tire of a casing/bead cord failure. It does look like the cords are stretched from a cut right around the bead but I won't claim that is the problem until... If it is the problem then how the tire was mounted might have some contribution to the problem. I have seen tires get damaged casing cords at the bead's edge from using tools that are too sharp to allow the tool to slide along the bear smoothly. Generally one tries to mount the tire tool free. But I have also seen tires new and unmounted with said damage.
What my eyes also seem to pick up in the shots are a piece of thread or rubber exiting the tire/rim interface and maybe a scratch on the brake track. Again it's hard to be certain. Andy.
What my eyes also seem to pick up in the shots are a piece of thread or rubber exiting the tire/rim interface and maybe a scratch on the brake track. Again it's hard to be certain. Andy.
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I posted the above just as the OP posted #7 . Seems like my suspicions were correct. Andy.
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I posted the above just as the OP posted #7 . Seems like my suspicions were correct. Andy.
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I'm usually the lone guy here saying go ahead and use it, but this tire looks dead to me.
The cords seem to be cut away from the bead wire, or the bead broken. I usually see this when people use tire levers and too much brute force when mounting. Sometimes it happens with tire jacks also.
Pull the tire and confirm my theory (hopefully, I'm wrong). But if the cords and bead are separated, you're SOL. It's also possible that the tire was defective, or a sharply creased bead wire let go, and maybe the seller will either warranty it or sell a replacement at a concession price.
BTW- I wasn't there when you installed it, but if you struggled with the process, it's because you substituted force for finesse. Tire mounting should be a smooth process, not calling for tools or great force.
The cords seem to be cut away from the bead wire, or the bead broken. I usually see this when people use tire levers and too much brute force when mounting. Sometimes it happens with tire jacks also.
Pull the tire and confirm my theory (hopefully, I'm wrong). But if the cords and bead are separated, you're SOL. It's also possible that the tire was defective, or a sharply creased bead wire let go, and maybe the seller will either warranty it or sell a replacement at a concession price.
BTW- I wasn't there when you installed it, but if you struggled with the process, it's because you substituted force for finesse. Tire mounting should be a smooth process, not calling for tools or great force.
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I'm usually the lone guy here saying go ahead and use it, but this tire looks dead to me.
The cords seem to be cut away from the bead wire, or the bead broken. I usually see this when people use tire levers and too much brute force when mounting. Sometimes it happens with tire jacks also.
Pull the tire and confirm my theory (hopefully, I'm wrong). But if the cords and bead are separated, you're SOL. It's also possible that the tire was defective, or a sharply creased bead wire let go, and maybe the seller will either warranty it or sell a replacement at a concession price.
BTW- I wasn't there when you installed it, but if you struggled with the process, it's because you substituted force for finesse. Tire mounting should be a smooth process, not calling for tools or great force.
The cords seem to be cut away from the bead wire, or the bead broken. I usually see this when people use tire levers and too much brute force when mounting. Sometimes it happens with tire jacks also.
Pull the tire and confirm my theory (hopefully, I'm wrong). But if the cords and bead are separated, you're SOL. It's also possible that the tire was defective, or a sharply creased bead wire let go, and maybe the seller will either warranty it or sell a replacement at a concession price.
BTW- I wasn't there when you installed it, but if you struggled with the process, it's because you substituted force for finesse. Tire mounting should be a smooth process, not calling for tools or great force.
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Take it back to the shop where you bought it and ask for a replacement. They'll give it to the rep next time he calls and he'll credit them a tire and the bike manufacturer will credit the distributor, and so on until someone on the line loses their job....
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Take it back, and see what the seller says............ Might get lucky
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I agree with the suggestion to take it back. But I also suggest complete honesty and don't try to claim a defect. Let the shop feel like they make that choice. This is a situation that one's relationship with the shop will determine a lot. We shop people are human too, when we get assaulted with extreme claims and demanding expectations we often react with our emotions and not our business savvy.
I have had sales reps say that I can cover tires and tubes under warranty that I decide on. But there's the unspoken aspect of being reasonable. So be reasonable with the shop but do show them the tire. It won't be luck if they cover it. It will be customer service. Andy.
I have had sales reps say that I can cover tires and tubes under warranty that I decide on. But there's the unspoken aspect of being reasonable. So be reasonable with the shop but do show them the tire. It won't be luck if they cover it. It will be customer service. Andy.
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While not impossible to damage a tire with plastic tire levers (pinch tubes, heck yeah) it is uncommon and takes some doing, especially when mounting as opposed to removing a tire. Was this an unusually hard tire/rim combination requiring a lot of force to get it on? Do you see obvious tool marks (kind of looks like it in the one picture but can't be sure)?