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Old 11-26-11, 04:10 PM   #1
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Is the Bike Nazi racist? Please vote.

I started a blog a few months ago. It's about my addiction to biking, racing, and training. I named the website The Bike Nazi, after my nickname (a nickname I had for a few years now).

Recently, I've gotten some negative feedback from a stranger about the racist nature of my site's name. My friends all support me and know that the website is "tongue-in-cheek".

I'd like to get the opinions of a wider cross section of people. Please check out a few pages from my blog and see what you think.

http://bikenazi.com/blog/november-20...i-website.html

Then please take my short survey.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SBVZ53V
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Old 11-26-11, 04:12 PM   #2
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1) NO BLOG FOR YOU
2) Tell em to eat your ass
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Old 11-26-11, 04:15 PM   #3
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It's kinda like the other N word.

Some will undoubtedly find it offensive even though that is not your intent.
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people find everything offensive these days....it's really getting out of control....
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Soup Nazi is a tongue in cheek usage that pushes but doesn't step over the line.

Bike Nazi, as apparently a positive virtue is neither funny nor original, and walks over the line.
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Well at least your not a soup Nazi!
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Soup Nazi is a tongue in cheek usage that pushes but doesn't step over the line.

Bike Nazi, as apparently a positive virtue is neither funny nor original, and walks over the line.
I hope this is sarcastic....how is there is difference?!?!
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Old 11-26-11, 04:20 PM   #8
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ummm this thread seems to be duplicate spammed into multiple forums.
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Soup Nazi is a tongue in cheek usage that pushes but doesn't step over the line.

Bike Nazi, as apparently a positive virtue is neither funny nor original, and walks over the line.
Yeah, Soup Nazi was coined by a Jew named Larry David. Guess it isn't so offensive. Watch old Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes and you'll see he even makes joke of being a "Survivor". Tongue in cheek, you should not worry.
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The word "Nazi" is not racist in and of itself. You surely understand how someone could casual use of the term offensive, though.

To your circle of friends, the word is a cliche. It is not connected to the images and emotions that an older generation of people would connect it with. I have very little emotional attachment to the term, but someone else might.

That being said, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to use such a word in the title of your blog. Who is your audience? If you're worried about capturing the older, Jewish population, it's an issue. If you're worried about people like you and your friends, who don't think it's so bad, then I guess it doesn't matter.

I, personally, wouldn't title my blog as such. I don't think it's really all that descriptive, creative, or interesting, in any case.
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It's not racist.
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people find everything offensive these days....it's really getting out of control....
"nazi" as a positive attribute has to be right up there on the offensive list.

More than six million peoplemwere oiled as the result of Nazi hatred, and many times that had their lives dramatically effected.

You don't have to be particularly sensitive to find that the use of nazi as representing positive virtues to be insensitive.

And as stated above, it's no longer original nor funny.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article....uleId=10005143
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This is simple here....the older population (like Pcads age 50+) doesn't comprehend modern humor....
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I hope this is sarcastic....how is there is difference?!?!
Soup nazi was satire of an over the top control freak. It wasn't a positive characterization.

Using nazi as a positive to describe dedication and commitment as the bike nazi appears to do is clearly different and potentially offensive to many.
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This is simple here....the older population (like Pcads age 50+) doesn't comprehend modern humor....
No, we actually got the joke the first time, and find no humor in people trying to repeat a joke they either never heard the original of,or didn't understand why it was funny the first time.
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I don't seem to remember there being a big stink about the Seinfeld episode featuring the soup nazi but maybe that's because he's Jewish and therefore allowed such trespasses???? How about the "bike supremacist"? Lol simply put there are people out there who are looking for anything to be offended about, not that they are wrong but let's be honest unless your blog includes schwasticas and white power references most people will understand its tongue in cheek!

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I don't seem to remember there being a big stink about the Seinfeld episode featuring the soup nazi but maybe that's because he's Jewish and therefore allowed such trespasses???? How about the "bike supremacist"? Lol simply put there are people out there who are looking for anything to be offended about, not that they are wrong but let's be honest unless your blog includes schwasticas and white power references most people will understand its toung in cheek!
If you actually read the blog, she calls herself the bike nazi because she approaches cycling with the veracity of an addict. When she calls herself the bike nazi it's a term of endearment, whereas the soup nazi was using a nazi German stereotype to satire someone.

There's a difference.

Using nazi to make fun of someone is one thing, using it as a positive is another. It's reasonable to believe the latter could offend a number of peope.

Obviously the OP is free to call her blog what she wants. My point is simply that many people that didn't find soup nazi offensive, may well find this at a minimum boorish, and potentially offensive.
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Personally if it was me I would call it something else. It doesn't bother me one bit but if you want it to be successful, your going to have to take into consideration those easily offended and those looking to be offended.
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If you actually read the blog, she calls herself the bike nazi because she approaches cycling with the veracity of an addict. When she calls herself the bike nazi it's a term of endearment, whereas the soup nazi was using a nazi German stereotype to satire someone.

There's a difference.
It's the difference between "He's a Nazi." and "I'm a Nazi."
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Soup nazi was satire of an over the top control freak. It wasn't a positive characterization.

Using nazi as a positive to describe dedication and commitment as the bike nazi appears to do is clearly different and potentially offensive to many.
I don't consider it a positive connotation. I assume the title to mean that the author is dedicated and committed to the bike to a fault. It could be soup as well. Personally, one such area for me is freedom of speech. I'll support it on principle even if it occasionally brings bad results.

That said, I agree it's a tired joke.

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if you want it to be successful, your going to have to take into consideration those easily offended and those looking to be offended.
It's a niche blog about cycling, not a syndicated program with a public relations department, or a corporation gone public trying to please stockholders. I'm not knocking your advice, but I'd guess that the author is writing for himself, for the audience he wants (which may exclude those who are easily offended), and nobody else.

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I find the never ending stupidity of the the 41 offensive...hasn't stopped me
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What makes you think "nazi" is being used in a positive light? I haven't read the blog, but I assume the title to mean that the author is dedicated and committed to the bike to a fault. It could be soup as well. Personally, one such area for me is freedom of speech. I'll support it on principle even if it occasionally brings bad results.

That said, I agree it's a tired joke.
First amendment has nothing to do with this. No one's contesting the fact that the Op has the right to call herself the Bike Nazi.

The question is whether she should, and if she does might she reasonably cause offense to some


There are tons of thing you can do, that you shouldn't.

She asked for opinions on whether this was a good idea; she's getting them.
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Only if you live all of the Rules, and demand all other cyclists do, can you really call yourself a bike nazi.
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