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    Big time newbie in the bmx department.
    Looking for ready made micro mini (16.25 top tube).
    Found these two bikes (other suggestions appreciated) and I'm curious as to why one is 100.00 more than the other, and if it will be worth it in the long run (will have bike for probably 4 years or so for two boys).

    http://www.trident-sports-usa.com/it...8&PRID=1509514
    http://www.gtbicycles.com/race/cata...=usa&brand=race

    Don't like that the FMF has 155mm cranks. With FMF's setup, can I buy shorter cranks?
    Thanks
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    Will they actually race this bike? If so, go to your local track for the best advice. I'd also look at Redline, as locally at least, they seem to hold their value. I checked my GT catalog, as the link wasn't working. Their bike looks ok, but for the littlest guys, from what I've seen at our track, they don't really get abused. I also looked up the FMF cranks, and can't find any shorter than 155mm. Hope that helps get you started. If you want, I can probably email a mate that has 3 or 4 kids that race. He's usually got some good advice.

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    Not an expert on racing...but....
    look at Redline's racing line...
    also the FMF bikes look really good...and yes, you can probobly get longer or even shorter cranks, i know that Profile makes a HUGE range of sizes...
    and the GT Powerbox bikes (i think thats what there called) are super nice...

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    FMF was great stuff when we were young, but today it seems to be way over priced. Might was well get them Crupi for their first bike.

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    the FMF race bikes are $399 in DANSCOMP...all ready to race with sealed parts...

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    That's not so bad. I'm still partial to Redline as a first bike.

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    Expatriate/Kinetic...
    Thanks for your insight.
    I was originally looking into redlines and would get one except they don't make a micro mini (well, unless you count the titanium model... 600+ for the frame only and no complete bike).

    LOOKS like the GT is more tailor made for the smaller riders (different bars- width and diameter, shorter cranks (135's) etc.

    I WANT the FMF (just something a little different I suppose) but my heads/intuitions telling me the GT is probably the right bike.

    One thing that bothers me about the GT is that their product line is apparantly available at the chain sporting goods store "Dicks Sporting Goods". Of course I suppose that could be a plus too.

    Is there some terminolgy on the cranks, headsets etc that let me know how interchangable they are going to be with other bikes?

    I'm going through a lot of bikes here already and I'd like to be able to canabalize from bike to bike if possible.

    Thanks again.
    Cheers.
    Eddie

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    Nothing wrong with them being sold at the chain stores. Helps keep the prices down on the better bikes too.

    As far as interchange bits, I've got bad news. Unless you're planning another micro, there's nothing really on the GT that can transfer to another bike. The cranks and BB could go as a package, but generally you'd be looking for longer cranks at some point. The headset is partially integrated into the frame, and they're only about $20 anyway. The forks have a 1" steerer, while the larger bikes are all 1 1/8". What's that really leaving us? Pedals and grips? That's one of the reasons I would consider looking at used. The kids can't do too much damage, so used one generally may need tires and pedals to be good as new.

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    Expatriate-
    Thanks a bunch. You've been a huge help.... gone way above and beyond.
    I'd do used except just not a lot of it around here (micros) and don't have time to "deal" with ebay.
    Gonna go ahead and buy new, and have all but settled on the GT. A couple of phone calls and I'll be done (I think). There is a regional at the track he rides at in a couple weeks and I'd like for that to be his first race. He hasn't been able to ride with anyone his age yet, so the regional will be his best chance.
    Anyway, trying to get a bike for him so he can practice before the race.
    Again, THANKS!
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    Fly out here and you'll get a great deal on a used micro. No worries at all about the help. Just post some photos or at least results.

    Cheers.

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    OK. I'll post a pic of him on it at his first race.
    Australia sounds cool but somehow I don't think even I can rationalize to my wife that I need to go to Australia to pick up a bicycle. Let me think on it though.
    Eddie

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    Quote Originally Posted by e.myers
    OK. I'll post a pic of him on it at his first race.
    Australia sounds cool but somehow I don't think even I can rationalize to my wife that I need to go to Australia to pick up a bicycle. Let me think on it though.
    Eddie
    Hey, since I've been here I bought2 BMX cruiser, plus built our tandem. See if that helps your case. Of course, we had to go back to the states to get some parts for the tandem. I can see how it's not looking good for you at this point.

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    So you're from the US and moved to Australia.
    Not too long ago, I hooked up with a guy named Craig over the internet who was also from the US and moved over to Australia. A suspension guy (Dirtbike). He was a TREMENDOUS amount of help to me learning about suspension. Would be just too weird if you knew him. Figured I'd ask.
    Eddie

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    Oh yeah, I know Craig. There's only about 10 other Americans over here, so we all know each other. Not really. But there's a forklift driver at work named Craig. Where does your mate live?

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    Redline or FMF are the best...
    and i think GT is good too.

    unless you want custom build

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    Expatriate...
    And you're funny too! (Har.)
    I tried to find out where he lived from some of the correspondence we have had.... no luck.
    I do remember he lives close to some "very" famous racetrack (for street bikes... moto gp I believe). Does some track days there apparently.
    Anyway, I emailed him to try to find out exactly where it is.

    Kinetic-
    Custom isn't an option at this point. Already ordered the GT because it needed less mods off the bat than the others. Redline really wasn't an option since it's a mini and the FMF needed different cranks etc for a small dude.

    Thanks,
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    The missus informs me there's a race track called "Phillip Island"? Sound familiar? It's not anywhere near us though.

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    The missus informs me there's a race track called "Phillip Island"? Sound familiar? It's not anywhere near us though.

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    The missus informs me there's a race track called "Phillip Island"? Sound familiar? It's not anywhere near us though.

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    Yep. I think that's the one. Guess my Craig didn't start driving fork lifts then.
    Eddie

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    Quote Originally Posted by e.myers
    Yep. I think that's the one. Guess my Craig didn't start driving fork lifts then.
    Eddie
    He came into my office yersterday, and parked his fork in the yard, but in my line of sight. I casually asked him "Craig, is that your fork?", and pointed across the yard. He stuck his head out the door, had a look, and said "Yeah". So, being the smartass that I am, I asked him, "Did you set the parking brake?". Without even blinking, he asked "Why, is it rolling away?". I suppose it would be funnier if you knew that his fork is a 16tonne job. Made me laugh though.

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    Well? Was it rolling away or were you just messing with him?
    I was at a gas station one time and went in with my son to ask for directions. I was driving my 300ZX at the time.
    Anyway, the gas station attendant said, is that your car? It looks like someones stealing it! I ran out of the gas station and started chasing it down a hill off the shoulder of the road and almost into a pond.
    Really was a freaky feeling. Turns out, I forgot to set the parking brake when I left it running. Nobody was even in the car.

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    I've done that with an automatic-equipped car. Jump out to move a shopping trolley or my trash bin, and left it in drive. Haven't let one get away yet though.

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