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Old 08-16-05, 09:07 PM   #1
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Help on getting a new bike...

Okay, I'm pretty new to bmxing. I've been riding my friends bike which is a diamondback and i just feel like i need something more...So i figured it's time to stop bumming off my friend and get my own bike. I'm about 5'9 130 pounds..As i said i'm pretty new..but i feel im progressing pretty quickly. Right now im doing dirt jumping trails\ street. I want a bike that can handle the dirt, but also a 7 stair...I have a pretty good deal on a Free Agent Trail Devil..i only have like 150-200 to spend so I'm definatley getting a used bike. Would the trail devil be a good choice? It has some good parts, 14mm axles, 3 piece cranks etc. And if not..some other models\years i should look at.

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How old/worn is the bike if its used? If its new, buy it. You dont need to spend 400+ for your first bike.
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The bike looks pretty new. The owner said he only used it like 5 times. It doesnt look beat up at all and theres no rust.
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Buy it.
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Where do you put your feet on your winter contraption?
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Where do you put your feet on your winter contraption?


It has a kickplate you stand on similar to a scooter but wide enough for both feet. You stear the back by pinching your seat with your knees. Come to Tahoe and ill give you a demo this winter.

Here is a picture of an older model without shocks to show the kickplate. I was modifying it to add a toekick for higher lift.

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I might need to give that a go when I move to Utah.
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I might need to give that a go when I move to Utah.
I want a Matt Beringer autograph!

My friend and i were looking into buying a kit that you can convert your current BMX into one.
Basically you take off the wheels and put these ski things in and take your cranks out and replace it with a bottombracket peg standie thing. It was like $200ish...


But we didnt have jobs or a steady income and gave in and tried making one out of my old frame and some duct tape and cardboard...oh well...
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Sounds like the winter X-Bike conversion kit. In my personal opinion all the ski bikes out there that DONT have wide boards are worthless unless you want to ride the boardercross track. If you want to ride deep powder you need wide boards or you will sink. Check out the crighton, even the basic model rocks hard in powder.Expatriate, when you get to utah come visit Tahoe for a weekend in the winter, I have 6 skibikes.


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Basically you take off the wheels and put these ski things in and take your cranks out and replace it with a bottombracket peg standie thing. It was like $200ish...
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Is there any snow left in March?
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We had snow storms in june this year so you will be fine if you come before may when the slopes close. Last year was a record powder year for us.
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..okay this thread is pretty much hi-jacked. lol
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Man, learn to snowboard. You'll have 100 times more fun in the snow, instead of wishing it were dirt and getting laughed at by everyone on the hill.
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Man, learn to snowboard. You'll have 100 times more fun in the snow, instead of wishing it were dirt and getting laughed at by everyone on the hill.
You are not aware of what a ski-bike can do. I challenge you to follow me on some of the back country runs up here. Ive tried snowboarding, couldnt handle my feet being strapped down.
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You are not aware of what a ski-bike can do. I challenge you to follow me on some of the back country runs up here. Ive tried snowboarding, couldnt handle my feet being strapped down.
*LAUGHS!* You're on, dude. I'd LOVE to see someone take a ski bike over the falls on Palisades at Sugar Bowl or off the Poop Chute cornice right between the rocks. Or let's go to Kirkwood and session chair #10, California Chute. Sorry if I found that comment a little ridiculous, I've only been snowboarding for 15 years, teaching professionally for 3 and riding over 100 days a year for the last four seasons.
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Im confused as to why you tried to belittle the skibike in the beginning of all this? Why cant I enjoy riding a skibike? My challenge was so that you would see that skibikes like the crighton have a lot of potential to ride just as good as a snowboard in backcountry tree riding, off 20 foot kickers and in the halfpipe. Im sorry your ego was hurt when you felt I was attacking your riding ability. My challenge was to get you to see the light, that the skibike has been around longer than the snowboard. It seems you are acting the same way about skibikes as the skiers/resort owners were acting about snowboards 20 years ago.
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Im confused as to why you tried to belittle the skibike in the beginning of all this? Why cant I enjoy riding a skibike? My challenge was so that you would see that skibikes like the crighton have a lot of potential to ride just as good as a snowboard in backcountry tree riding, off 20 foot kickers and in the halfpipe. Im sorry your ego was hurt when you felt I was attacking your riding ability. My challenge was to get you to see the light, that the skibike has been around longer than the snowboard. It seems you are acting the same way about skibikes as the skiers/resort owners were acting about snowboards 20 years ago.
You're making my sides hurt.

- Trees are nothing
- 20 feet is nothing
- riding the walls and boosting like Ross Powers are two different things
- whether a velocipede or a surfboard had been tried on snow first is still up for debate because no one cares
- no skier or snowboarder I know is going to wait for some poor fool to carry a ski bike up Castle Peak
- ski bikes never had to deal with resorts that banned them over baggy pants, snowboarders took care of that already, so no one sympathizes with the whining about prejudice

Bikes are great at what they do, but they're not so great at being anything other than bikes. Maybe FireTeamCharlie has some pointers for you, though...I bet if you used the same secret techniques he uses to beat road bikes on his BMX you too could keep up with snowboarders on your ski bike.
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See you are avoiding the subject so that you can argue with me through an anonymous venue like the internet. Whats really bothering you? I still dont get why im not allowed to have fun on the skibike or why you even jumped into this thread? Sorry I make your sides hurt.
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If by 'avoiding the subject' you mean 'listing bullet points explaining why ski bikes are lame'.
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You just want to argue. Sorry I wont be involved in that.
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I want to be entertained, and you already are.
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I'm not one to pick sides, as I usually prefer to stir up all parties, but I'm going to have to pick one here.

Snazz, you have a BMX and a skinny tire bike, so surely you must be somewhat open to alternate takes on similar sports. Have you tried the ski bike contraption? If you have, then you get some respek for your opinion. But if you're only offering a biased opinion, I'm thinking that's more deserving of just knuckles. A fist shaking of a lifetime from Monty Burns, perhaps?

On a serious note, while I'd love to try snowboarding, the fact that I've already destroyed the same knee twice, plus broken my foot once, leads me to believe it's not for me. I like walking, and not be able to do that really sucks. I'm sure I'd break an ankle first time out on a snowboard. As a youngster (possibly before both of you were born) saw a bike with a studded back tire and something like a ski attached to the fork. This intrigued me. Obviously, the Crighton is not the same thing, but I'd still give it a go. So, let's put the hostility aside, and have a polite discussion about the pros and cons of both snow toys, and quit the pissing contest. Otherwise, this might as well be a Campy/Shimano argument.

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A bunch of us tried ski bikes at Brundage a couple seasons ago, it was novel but generally less than awesome. I've seen the things here and there doing less than awesome stuff. They're a pain in the ass to get around with on the mountain, they look ridiculous and taking them on anything more difficult than a mellow blue is suicide because they don't stop or maneuver ANYTHING like skis, snowboard or even a bike. They're generally regarded with the same sneering dismissal as teleboards, monoskis, Sled Dogs...Yet Another wacky snowsliding device someone didn't fully think through before inventing.
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That's better. Didn't you take a college debate course? Back up your argument. When I get to Utah, I'm sure I'll make some variant of the ski bike in between building choppers and recumbents and trailers.
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