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Old 11-02-05, 12:49 PM   #1
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New PK Ripper?

Reading a bit of the forum today. Seems that people do not have many good things to say about SE Racing. Looking to purchase a bike for my son and being that the PK Ripper was the bike of choice when I was a kid, it is where my search started. I have to say that I am a bit disappointed to hear that they are not anything to write home about now….

Can get a new SE Racing PK Ripper Team for approx. $400(MSRP $700). Is there a better way to spend $400 on a BMX bike?

He does not race….and this bike is just going to be something to get him around the neighborhood. Now before I get a lot of poser or “just get him a $200-300 bike if that is all he is going to use it for.” What we spend on a bike is my concern, not yours. If I am in a position to drop a little cash frivolously, why not. On the flip side of that, I don't want to drop $400 on junk just because it brings back fond memories.

Anyway, thought I would look into this a little closer before I pull the trigger on anything.
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Old 11-02-05, 02:52 PM   #2
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I think SE is just trading on their name at this point. There's never any mention of them in the US BMX magazines that I read. If you want to get your kid one for sentimental reasons, go ahead. Without knowing the spec on it, I can't really comment on how good it is, or how long it might last. That said, you should expect a pretty decent bike for that price. I'd look for something else, if it was my kid.
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Old 11-02-05, 02:55 PM   #3
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Frame SE Racing Certified 6061 Aluminum Floval Tubing w/ Integrated Head Tube and Power Box Shaft Rear Stays
Fork SE Racing 1 1/8" Landing Gear, Certified 4130 Cr-Mo chrome
Headset FSA 1 1/8" Threadless Press Fit Integrated
Handlebars SE Racing Wing Bar, 26.75" X 8" 4130 Cr-Mo
Stem AC Gripper, Front Load, 1 1/8" Alloy
Grips SE Racing Custom Kraton Rubber
Brake Lever Tektro 318A 2 Finger Alloy
Brake(s) Tektro BX-25 V-Brake (Rear only)
Seat SE Racing BMX with custom imprinted cover(team design)
Seat Post AC RacePost Micro-Adjust Aluminum, 350mm
Seat Clamp SE Racing Alloy
Crank AC ProTech 19, 3-pc Tubular CR-MO, 180mm
Chainwheel AC AC/DC 44T Aluminum
Chain KMC Z30, 3/32"
BB AC ProTech 19 Euro Sealed Cartridge 48T spline CR-MO
Pedal Wellgo Alloy Platform w/ CR-MO Axle w/ Replaceable Pins
Rim ALEX Supra U 36H Double Wall Aluminum Chrome
Front Hub AC Racing Cartridge Sealed Bearing 36H Alloy
Rear Hub AC Racing Cartridge Sealed Bearing 36H Alloy cassette
Spokes Stainless 14 Ga.
Freewheel AC 888, 16T 3/32"
Tires Maxxis Holy Roller 1.95 F, 1.75R
Pegs Nil
Gyro Nil
Extras Chain Tensioners, SE Racing Logo Valve Caps
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Geometry
Head tube angle 74
Seat tube angle 71
Top tube length 21"
Chainstays 15"
Seat tube length 10"
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Old 11-02-05, 02:57 PM   #4
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Whatever that stuff means....???
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The SE Racing of today is not the SE Racing of yesteryear. Don't waste your time, or your money.
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Beerman, what's will all the AC stuff? Is that their cheap house brand?
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they aren't the same but at the same time, it's going to be ridden by a child.

as you said, it's your call and your money. if it brings back memorys, get it.

you never said the age of your son.....I'm assuming younger then 10 ish?

either way, get what makes HIM happy first. it's his bike, he's the one that's going to be riding it.

also, half the people on this board are children themselves. don't take what most of them say to seriously, they don't have a clue about what they are talking about..
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Expatriate: AC Racing is a parts company. The only reputable product of theirs that I can think of offhand is their 15-tooth freewheel.
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Yes, 9 y/o....but a tall 9. About the size of your average 11-12 y/o kid.

Right, it is my guess and I would bet, this bike will never see a track. It will be transportation from one home to another. Maybe a little dirt track his friends make up.

A new bike will make him happy. He wouldn't know the difference between something from Dicks Sporting Goods and a Redline Flight Pro.

If I am buying a $700 bike for $400, then by all means it is a great deal. I get the added bonus of the memories of my youth, so why not... But if I am buying a $300 bike for $400, then I will choose to go with quality and look elsewhere(though have no idea where).

I appreciate the input.
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Expatriate: AC Racing is a parts company. The only reputable product of theirs that I can think of offhand is their 15-tooth freewheel.
Not the same as ACS, is it?
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As far as I know, no.
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If I am buying a $700 bike for $400, then by all means it is a great deal. I get the added bonus of the memories of my youth, so why not... But if I am buying a $300 bike for $400, then I will choose to go with quality and look elsewhere(though have no idea where).

I appreciate the input.
Are you sure you want to get him a race bike? If he's a big kid, you're better off with a stronger steel frame. Maybe a 1979 Mongoose with Skyways? Seriously though, a race bike won't hold up long if he decides to start jumping stuff.
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Not worried much about him jumping anything more than a curb.

I have looked at some of the freestyle stuff. That said, the last thing I am worried about is his being too rough on a bike.

...and not a big kid, in the sense of big, "husky" or whatever it is called nowdays. He is tall for his age, but wiry....not thick.
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So back to the PK Ripper.... Is it a $400-700 bike or a $300 bike masquerading as a higher end bike?

Does anyone have any first hand experience with the new Ripper line....???
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I'm leaning towards a $300 bike, but I'm not up on US prices right now. Seems pretty ordinary as a race bike.
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Top tube length 21"

that seems like it would be way too big for a 12 year old.

guys that are six foot and taller tend to ride frames that are that long. and the cranks are pretty long as well... I really think it's too big of a bike. I seriously doubt he would break it if he's just starting out riding a bike.

how about this? YOU buy the bike for YOURSELF and get him what he wants and you both ride around the 'hood?
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Good point on TT length. It's a race bike, so it's longer.
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The size of the bike has me swimming. Started looking at the Ripper Jr and Mini. I went and looked at the Redline(no SE dealer here) and the smaller frames(Flight Jr and Expert) looked VERY small to me.

Being that he is not racing, no need to manipulate the bike underneath him, get RPM’s cranked out ect. I wondered if the bigger bike would be fine. If not, I am not opposed to the smaller bikes…..including a Ripper Jr. Just looking at the bikes in person, I didn’t think he would have any trouble with the bigger bike. My first “real bike” a Robinson in the 5th grade, maybe 6th(just older than my son) was standard sized and I never had any issue….. I don’t remember Jr or mini bikes even being an option back then.

Again, remember he is not racing this bike, just something to ride around the neighborhood.
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