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Old 02-03-06, 09:13 PM   #1
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36 vs. 48 spoke wheel build

could someone simply cite a past thread addressing this? it is too bad the search doesn't recognize "numbers"...and appearently i am not typing the right "search" words.
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I think it's been a while anyway since the issue's been brought up. If you're to the point where you're thinking of building your own wheels though, you should have a pretty good idea of what you're going to demand out of your equipment.
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If you're going old school, or just mild 36's will last...we used to thrash GT Superlace 36's with no problems on ramps and flatland...a well build set of 36's will outlast a ****ty set of 48's.
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I think it's been a while anyway since the issue's been brought up. If you're to the point where you're thinking of building your own wheels though, you should have a pretty good idea of what you're going to demand out of your equipment.
i already have built wheels, but not 20"/bmx size wheels. i will probably just stick with a 3X because that is what i am more familiar with. i just want to make sure i have no regrets after shelling out over 500-600 hundred dollars on materials to build a wheel.
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No functional reason to go anything other than 3x on 36h. I've been wanting to build one of <a href="http://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co.uk/WheelBuild/3leading.htm">these</a> for my flatland bike (with a radial front) but money and time have been assigned to other projects (like the newly cracked rim on my LeMond, a Bianchi I'm building up into a rain bike and the recent acquisition of a Giant AC1 frame).
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No functional reason to go anything other than 3x on 36h. I've been wanting to build one of <a href="http://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co.uk/WheelBuild/3leading.htm">these</a> for my flatland bike (with a radial front) but money and time have been assigned to other projects (like the newly cracked rim on my LeMond, a Bianchi I'm building up into a rain bike and the recent acquisition of a Giant AC1 frame).
how would you calculate spoke length? the calculators i have seen didn't have an option for this pattern. or would it just be the same as a 3X ?
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What I do if I need spokes cut at the bike shop, but they can't calcualte it for you. I call Danscomp and say you bought spokes, or something, and you need to know the length they need to be cup to with your rim/hub.
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What I do if I need spokes cut at the bike shop, but they can't calcualte it for you. I call Danscomp and say you bought spokes, or something, and you need to know the length they need to be cup to with your rim/hub.
oh okay, i will use that as a fall back. sounds kind of like a pain....i like to do things myself. i have about 3 calculators i use to confirm they're all spitting out the same numbers. i am sure they are using the same formula, but i have found differences.

the Spoke Calcs i have been using don't seem to offer less common lace patterns so that is why i was wondering about calculating the previously mentioned pattern.

i am not near any dealers, so if i am off by 1mm or whatever and its not going to work, it means a trip to the freaking post office and another delay...
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how would you calculate spoke length? the calculators i have seen didn't have an option for this pattern. or would it just be the same as a 3X ?
Same as 3x. Only when you get into wackier lacing patterns like crow's foot with varied spoke lengths does it get really sort of confusing. A couple mechanics at my shop way back in the day built a wheel...with the hub off-center. No two spokes are the same length, but the wheel is perfectly true laterally (obviously not vertically), dished properly and tensioned beautifully. Brain-boggling.
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Im building 32 hole wheels with Chris King Hubs, smokes anything your thinking of building. Hands Down.
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Aside from the fact that you could get a Profile Mini hub with 28 spokes that will be lighter and have a more durable hub, and it won't run you as much money, of course.
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Im building 32 hole wheels with Chris King Hubs, smokes anything your thinking of building. Hands Down.
yea you can build those wheels or buy a car.
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Im building 32 hole wheels with Chris King Hubs, smokes anything your thinking of building. Hands Down.
who are you talking to?? hope it's not me
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Chris King hubs = $45327029836543 (or colledge fund)
i hear that there not even that great...
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I ride Cyclocross...I hear they are pretty much that great
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Unless you're buying CK with some kind of employee, pro or bro hookup, you're spending too much money. Even King pro froms are a pain in the ass to get, they have to be submitted between this silly narrow range of dates and there's a number of other ways they try to f*ck with you. Besides, that stupid ring drive noise makes my teeth itch. I'd rather deal with sloppy engagement than that damn sound.
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Everyone hears you coming, and they know you spent big bucks, and no im not paying retail for them. I am going to look into that profile hub.
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hmm, I looked but I see like 12 different kinds of hubs they make, Beerman would you care to give me a link to the exact hub you claim to cost less and be lighter then a Chris King hubset?
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Everyone hears you coming, and they know you spent big bucks, and no im not paying retail for them. I am going to look into that profile hub.
do you build your own wheels?? are you still going to get Calvin Klein hubs?
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I don't have the ability to build a wheel to the point of being able to trust it. I have a proffesional do that. Especially with Chris King Hubs, not Calvin Klein. I will still get Chris King if I don't like the hubs beerman mentioned, but I have yet to see them.
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Beerman? Your usually on top of things, did you pass out on us?
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No. You see, I have this thing called "a life" that allows me to do things aside from monitoring internet message boards 24/7.
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Ahh, so you decide to title yourself as Beerman. Yes it appears you have an awesome "a life" as you would call it, possibly you ment a "Life"?


YOU LOSE!

GOOD DAY SIR

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1) Using a copyrighted BMXBoard signature insult is against the law, if you're not a BMXBoardian.
2) You're nitpicking, and, in general, being a ******.

And, by the way, the correct order of that phrase is "you lose," followed by a "good day, sir." Maybe you should go back and take Willy Wonka 100W again at ****** University?
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Possibly im being original?
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