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Old 03-02-06, 07:49 PM   #1
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S&M PBR FRAME

i had a few questions on this frame. if i ran maxxis maxx daddy would the rub on the front of the chain stay? also could this frame take a beating and how easy does it dent? o yeah what kind of warenty does s&m give with with this frame? Thanks
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Old 03-02-06, 07:52 PM   #2
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also how easly does the back end dent? Thanks
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Old 03-02-06, 07:55 PM   #3
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good frame. not positive about the tire though. what are you going to ride?
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Old 03-02-06, 07:58 PM   #4
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1) It depends on how wide the tire is, and how far back it is in the dropout. You could probably slam it with a smaller width Maxx Daddy without it hitting the stays.
2) Yes, it can take a beating, and it won't dent that easily.
3) If you break it, you can buy a new frame from them at cost, with free shipping; it's the same as it is for every other S&M frame. You won't break it, though.
4) Unless you're sketchy as hell doing pedal grinds, I can't imagine how you would dent the back end. And, for the record, I rode a Stricker for a year and a half (which is basically the same frame, but with lighter tubing) without putting a single dent in it; the only damage was wear on the bottom bracket and chainstays from pedal and BB grinds.
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dont get max daddy they are crappy, the pbr is pretty old but its a nice frame, the lowest gearing you can run is around 30t, its could handle a bit of abuse but its not an Angel Of Death.
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its could handle a bit of abuse but its not an Angel Of Death.
No sh1t. It doesn't weigh eight pounds, either. Imagine that.
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i ride dirt and about the back of the bike in ment bend side to side like if i landed sidewayes of something like that. thanks

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Old 03-03-06, 08:41 PM   #8
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also it says this frame has a internaly machined head tube. what does that mean
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That's not denting, that's twisting. The only frames that I ever see with twisted rear triangles are Fly frames, specifically the Panteras.
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Old 03-03-06, 10:16 PM   #10
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theres already a thread on this...i knowcuz i asked about it during hte summer
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i have a pos 2003 redline recon and would this s&m dent as easly as my redline frame? also what does it mean when they say internaly machined heat tude. Thanks
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Youll be fine with the frame. Its better than your Redline and stronger

As for the tires, there good but only for the front. I have had my Maxx Daddy for about 7 months now and i intend on gettin another one, there very good for dirt...jsut dont run yours in the back becuse it probly wont clear the brakes and anyways...its not a good back tire, try something like a Prmo Wall for the back...
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k thank for the advice
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No problem, thank beerman too....
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ya thanks beerman
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What's so wrong with Redline (can I get an answer without an insult here?)???
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ummm redlines are ok but they pritty much are making race frames. my recon is a good starter bike tho and it was cheap.
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I have the '05 Mega-XL.
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ya thats a pretty good bike havent realy heard much about them
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It's just their frame. I bought it piece by piece (but all at once). No other Redline parts on it.
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i have the 2005 PBR frame and does and one no how much it weighs. also it said it has a internaly machined head tube what does that mean. also are american and mid bb the same diamiter? Thanks
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i have the 2005 PBR frame and does and one no how much it weighs. also it said it has a internaly machined head tube what does that mean. also are american and mid bb the same diamiter? Thanks
A Mid BB uses the bearings of an American BB, but without the cups. The bearings are pressed into the frame, vs. cups being pressed with the American.
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i have the 2005 PBR frame and does and one no how much it weighs. also it said it has a internaly machined head tube what does that mean. also are american and mid bb the same diamiter? Thanks
Your PBR weighs: 6lbs 3ish oz.
and you have an american BB.
internaly machined headtube means nothing as far as what kind of headset(you use a regular one NOT and internal or integrated...)
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so i have to use the the screw on fork kind?
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also can you make an american a mid if you press the bearings in
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