FitRider 921

you didn't prove anything. both companies are in the business to make money and had bmx influence and background in making the companies. danscomp is just a bit more corportate and businesslike, but it treats them well and they still sponsor riders and have a good time. so chill.

sprintcarblue

Agreed all companies are companies. Sure dans comp pays some riders, but I really don't think the amount put back into the community is equal. You can throw your money where ever you please. But when I spend my dollar I like to atleast know my money is going to people who care about our sport. Dats all I'm sayin, b.

FitRider 921

Who says the people at danscomp don't care?

mude

i pretty much order from wherever i can get what i want quickest, fastestest, and reliablesest(word?), and cheapest.


but....
1. dans is a company, they do business to make money as do all other mailorders. if they didnt want to make money they would be riding their bikes instead of selling parts.

2. dans does sponsor people, hook people up with free parts (see their contests), and promote the sport in a positive light by letting people send in pictures that they'll post under riders

3. they have that scratch and dent section which is pretty cool because it gives people a chance to buy solid good parts for cheaper

4. they're hospitable

5. they have competetion. they are not the only bmx mailorder company. there arent many bmxers and if you divided up the amount of riders that buy their parts from mailorders between the 5 or so good mailorders thats really not THAT much business. i mean its alot but probably not as much as your thinking.

6. they run a good business, they havent messed anything up for me.

7. they promote the sport of bmx in a good way. i'll give my money to anyone that does that.

sprintcarblue

I'm not going to get into this anymore indepth. Obviously everyone has their opinions, I gave my opinion and how I feel about rider owned mailorders vs. alloy, take it or leave it.

sbcdestroy

ive ordered from dans a few times in the past.

sure the parts came in a decent amount of time, but they ***** me on shipping for small bits, and some of the people there dont have a clue in the world what they are talking about. i got lots of ummm... i dont know....

but when I call albes, or empire, i get straight answers, no BS, superb customer service faster shipping at better rates and I know that MORE of my dollar is going back into BMX, than with a larger corperation like danscomp...

to me, danscomp is the MTV of mailorders, and thats just not my thing.

sprintcarblue

Wow, I'd expect to see kids like you on bikeguide but I guess morons are everywhere. If you don't care enough about the sport to consider buying from rider owned companies you obviously don't care that much about the sport. "Your opinion sucks" shows how incredibly close minded you are. When you guys are old enough to have your parents buy you cars, I hope you quit bmx and never, ever have anything to do with bmx again. Kthnxbi ****tards.

FitRider 921

Well, that was rude. If you don't like it here, then leave. Nobody is forcing you to post. We have different opinions than you. Honestly, I think your opinions are crap.

I_Suck_At_BMX

How kind of you to roll us all up into one catagory. I don't recall ever posting a reply or a thread insulting you or your opinions. With comments like that I'm positive you wont be missed, so bye now.

MadMan2k

sprintcarblue: I can understand you're passionate about that, but that doesn't mean you should call people morons and imply that if they shop somewhere other than where you do, they shouldn't even be involved with BMX.

It doesn't neccesarily mean people who buy parts at companies other than Empire or Albes don't care about the sport, or about supporting 'rider owned' companies. Everyone who opens a shop realizes they have competition, and they do their best to get customers to buy from them, and just because some shops might put out riding videos and have a friendly retail location for people to hang out in, I don't think that makes them any more deserving of my business than another shop.

I wouldn't expect a mail-order shop to have any customer support available, even if they do - if I'm ordering it over the internet, I'll do my research over the internet at places other than the place I'm buying it (that's after reading any pages they might have published on the subject).

By the way, Dans does include free stuff with orders sometimes, if that's one of the perks you're saying smaller shops give you. Maybe not much, but they threw in one of their 2007 calendars with my last order even though it wasn't over the cutoff amount to get one.

FitRider 921

^ word. you said everything I wanted/tried to say.

mude

i think all my points in my post (#29) were fairly valid.

MadMan2k

Yep, they were.

mude

money. and you people think i cant be serious

sbcdestroy

I guess I would rather prefer superior customer service and product knowlege, over a free calender...

imo dawg

KinetikBiker

I understand that. Because if you call Albes and Empire those people will probly know more then the peple answering the phones at Dans. I'm sure some of the people at Dan's know alot too but the phone people always seem to just answer your questions by clicking on their website and reading you what you allready know about the product.

Either way Dan's is a respectable mailorder. But i still say it's better to support your local shops.


And mude you forgot to mention that they have plenty of conetests and sponsoer events. Almost all of those BMX Invasion contests are sponsored by them.

sbcdestroy

my LBS's ****ing suck...its absolutely laughable...

"um...we dont deal with chainrings" when asking for a hat washer for between the spindle and sprocket...

though FlatlandFuel is local to me, so I can just drop by and get most anything I need. or PAt will order **** for me, because he is the ****.

KinetikBiker

The reason your local shops are probly crap is because they probly aren't aware of how many kids ride around you or don't know how to get into BMX. If you and some friends went in and started ordering parts and talking to them i'm sure you could help them get into bmx and then they'd have more stock.


Unless they are ******bags like one of our local shops and they don't want anything to do with bikes despite the money it would bring them.

Fortunatley there are two or three all BMX and MTB (the dirt jumping and racer mtb people) shops around here that like our kind.

sprintcarblue

hahaha. Oh you guys.

I_Suck_At_BMX

try telling my my LBS is crap.
https://www.maulsbikeshop.com

mude

i think he was refering to sbc

FitRider 921

props b.

sprintcarblue

but....
1. dans is a company, they do business to make money as do all other mailorders. if they didnt want to make money they would be riding their bikes instead of selling parts.

No ****. Way to point out the obvious. You need money to do what you want.

2. dans does sponsor people, hook people up with free parts (see their contests), and promote the sport in a positive light by letting people send in pictures that they'll post under riders

Okay, they do this. I already said that, though. I've never really seen or read anything about any jams or demos dans has put on. They just aren't as passionate as putting money back into the sport. Whenever I see videos, talk to anyone ect, it never has dans comp involved. Honestly, lets see the dans comp team DVD compared to the Empire Dvd, eh?

3. they have that scratch and dent section which is pretty cool because it gives people a chance to buy solid good parts for cheaper

I've never really checked this section. For some reason I doubt they ever have anything THAT great. Albes just got done with their 24 hour for 24 day sale. Unfortunatly from all the *****ing from companies like dans got mad and complained and they had to shut it down. Every mail order has their sales. I buy most of my parts on sale.

4. they're hospitable

Ive ordered there a few times and it honestly didn't seem like they knew their heads from their asses. A lot of people I know have had experiences with them shipping the wrong things and not being that great at their customer service. Look at Empire, they have the ask bonnie section which is very convienient for all you kids that don't know what you want.

5. they have competetion. they are not the only bmx mailorder company. there arent many bmxers and if you divided up the amount of riders that buy their parts from mailorders between the 5 or so good mailorders thats really not THAT much business. i mean its alot but probably not as much as your thinking.

Every kid at sometime or another thinks its a good idea to buy from dans because of their shiny catalouges. Luckly most of them decide to go to a better, smaller shop like staff, flatland fuel, empire or albes because they realize that they are much better in the end.

6. they run a good business, they havent messed anything up for me.

yeah yeah yeah we went over this. see section 1

7. they promote the sport of bmx in a good way. i'll give my money to anyone that does that.

pretty sure we went over this too. see section 2
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Dat's dat. This is a pretty entertaining forum. Evern on bikeguide and bmxboard kids are hardly this dense.

FitRider 921

You seem to be the only dense one here, buddy.

mude

they actually do have some very good stuff in their scratch and dent section.

i didnt know albes shut it down, but if they did the reason wasnt because of dans complaining, it was the suppliers complaining.

your retort to number 5 didnt really address anything i said