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    Is it a good bike?

    Sorry for posting a lot lately about what bike to get but i was wondering if the Ares Contrast FL450 Complete bike is any good.

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    Anyone know anything bout it?

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    Yes, it's a good bike. Overall the components and build quality is better than the DK Signal, but the Signal may still be a better value for a beginner.

    As said in a prior post, ANY bike on flatlandfuel.com besides the KHE products are highly recommended and are all excellent. Flatland bikes are almost all well engineered and flatlandfuel has a reputation for carrying almost only well designed bikes.

    The KHE stuff would be really good if they would dump their stupid headset.

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    ok thanks again

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    bmxtrix, srry for buggin u but, wat do u think is the best bike, not the best bike for a beginner, i mean best bike for a freestyler, not factoring in the price or size of rider or anything, im just askin wat is the best freestyle bike in the world or which ones tie for first place?
    These Darn Training Wheels

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    I don't think there is a best one. It is as simple as that. For flatland specifically there are about 20 really, REALLY good flatland frames out there. So then it's all personal preference, not quality. Complete bikes are not the way to go... unless you are on a budget. Then, it's all about money.

    I gave the Darwin spec list in another post and I would consider that one of the single best complete bikes a person could build up. But, it's not available as a complete bike.

    I guess that's kind of it. The BEST bike is one you build up yourself using the best parts and components. You don't find the BEST stuff on complete bikes because that would be cost prohibitive. So, you see complete bikes value rated to give you a lot of bang for the buck. But, they aren't custom.... they are stock.

    So, I don't have any opinion on the best. I just know when stuff isn't as good as it could be and am willing to point towards alternatives. In another post someone spoke about one of the Mosh bikes, which I didn't like that much, but there is another bike that Mosh makes that seems a lot better. So, even within a single company you can find good and bad products and need to accept that a company that makes 1,000 crappy parts can still make that ONE gem of a product that every rider should run.

    Primo is a mixed bag of components - some are great, some aren't.
    Odyssey, same way.
    Haro has some excellent components you can get at a good price - but a lot of their stuff isn't that great... or is beaten by others.

    You get the gist.

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    ya that would be my dream is to get the best frame out there, the best all around parts out there and see how much it would cost, but of course it wouldnt be the best for long because there will always be better parts comin out
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    and build it and ride it of course, i wouldnt just like to see how much it would cost
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    jrt i think u like coming into my posts and asking bmxtrix questions lol. anyway anyone know more or less most of the stuff i would need to put the rest of the partially assembled bike together?

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    crescent wrench, 6 and 5mm allen wrenches, maybe a chain breaker, some teflon grease would be a great idea, and if you have a socket set it and some open end wrenches you can do away with the nut mauling crescent afore mentioned

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    ok thanks

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    Look at the 'basic tools needed' section of bmxtrix.com for a list of the basics that you really, REALLY should have. Most of them you likely already have around the house, the rest you can ask for at your B'day or Christmas or something... or buy yourself with your own cash. It doesn't take much, but you almost definitely will need to install a wheel which means you will need a socket with a deep extension, bars go on with a 6mm hex wrench usually, and there is likely some 5mm hex wrench stuff to adjust as well.

    I would keep at least two sizes of adjustable wrenches (Crescent) handy as well as some channel locks would be good.

    Probably the only thing you don't have is some Park Tools Polylube and some Tri-Flow... you may want WD-40 as well, but you don't need WD-40 when assembling a bike.

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    thanks

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