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    springless brakes

    this is a pretty cool mod.. I hate dealing with the springs on my brakes, so I did this mod.. You take off the springs but keep on the caps for them and use two hair rubber bands.. like the one's for pony tails.. and usually can double them over and place them on the brakes as i have pictured. If you get the right rubber bands, you never have to adjust your springs again and you get great pull back on your brakes still.

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    too dangerous, rubber bands break, springs arnt that hard to deal with, some would consider me the master of tuning brakes, all you need really is an allen wrench and an open end wrench to pretension the springs while you tighten with the allen wrench, its not exactly a huge undertaking and can save you a brakeless disaster!!

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    you are so dumb.. ive been riding for 6 years, I know how to fix brakes, i did for years. I've had rubber bands on my brakes for 2 years.. never broken. wow. You think your a hot shot, but your not. I said hair rubber bands, which are actually cloth, not actually rubber. you are so judgemental, but you have very poor judgements. Sorry brake master.

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    Chill Out Man!
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    actually those cloth rubber bands your reffering to are... rubber...

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    That, and in the last year after fixing my brakes I haven't touched them once. Either front nor back. Why would you ever need to adjust your springs? I would think that any rubber band would be possible to break or slip off. While it would work, you also can't level the tension between your pads or adjust the tension to get it absolutely perfect.

    It's like improving on something that just doesn't need it. Afro engineering at its finest.

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    well im not sure, ive never checked it out, but do U brakes have little micro adjust things to make one side more "springier" then the other, like a small screw on each side that if u tighten it, it will tighten up (make more springier) the one side of the brake lever, srry if that was hard to understand but i have v brakes and its really nice if one sides gettin a lil too close i can just tighten watever screw on watever side i need to tighten.
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    Yeah - it's kind of like that.

    There are actually TWO bolts on U-Brakes (and I think v-brakes are similar). The inner bolt (the hex bolt) holds the outer bolt in place. So you can crank it down and it doesn't effect spring tension.

    The outer bolt uses an adjustable wrench and is what adjusts spring tension. So, you loosen the inner bolt, tighten the outer bolt (the correct direction!) just 1/10th of a turn or so adds a lot more spring tension. Then tighten the inner bolt back down to keep it all in place.

    It's super easy to work on 990's or Evolvers once you understand how they work. Actually, once they are setup, you don't really need to ever adjust them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Noobie
    actually those cloth rubber bands your reffering to are... rubber...
    Of course there is rubber in them to make them elastic, but they are still covered in cloth so they last a hell of a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrt1990
    Chill Out Man!
    If I provide the board with a mod on my bike that I have been running for a long time and some one tells me it's "too dangerous," I don't think that's too cool. And me and him are on just fine terms, so I don't see any harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMXTRIX
    That, and in the last year after fixing my brakes I haven't touched them once. Either front nor back. Why would you ever need to adjust your springs? I would think that any rubber band would be possible to break or slip off. While it would work, you also can't level the tension between your pads or adjust the tension to get it absolutely perfect.

    It's like improving on something that just doesn't need it. Afro engineering at its finest.
    If you havent touched your brakes once, maybe your not riding too hard.. if you ride street.. at all.. then you hould have at one point or many more had to touch your brakes.. theres actually no way if you really ride street to never get your wheels rubbing your brakes or have adjust your brakes even for a few months, let alone a year. If you ride flatland or something, I could get why you wouldnt have to touch your brakes.. And theres absolutely nothing wrong with rubber band brakes.. the only thing tension does is pull your brakes off your rim when you are done squeezing your brake lever.. and if the rubber band does that, and beleieve me it does it perectly.. whats wrong with that? why would any of you have that much bad to say about something you've never tried? From what I undertand alot of you ride stock bikes, so alot of you probably dont even know how to do much with your brakes.. and I'm not talking to everyone, because I know alot of you are plenty able to fix everything on your bike.. But I built my bike and I've been ajusting things on it and trying new mods on it over the pas five years, so I know about things thaat are stupid, and things that are worth it, and I was just sharing one of them with you, sorry.

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    dude r u kiddin, he is the one on bmxtrix.com, u know the one thats in the videos, the one thats really good, the one thats BETTER then u, ya thought so
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    HAHAHA thats funny lol

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    I just want to make one very important point. When you use a normal brake set up whether it be a V brake or a U brake the springs alow you the most control over where the brake pad is to the wheel. If you use this rubber band set up you have no control over this. The only way i see it working is if the pads are a reasonable distance away from the rim ( leading to very week brakes ). Before you decied that I'm wrong and your right let me tell you that I have worked on every kind of brakes and got all of them perfectly alined with the rim. Also on my bike which I work on the most the brake pads are literly millimeters away from the rim and dont touch it at all and I got this to work by just taking ten minutes to adjust the springs.

    To adjust U brake springs you need and adjustable wrench and a hex key that fits the socket. First you tighten the wrench around the outer spring casing. Then you loosen the bolt with the hex key. Now you can adjust the spring by turning the wrench. When the spring is where you think you need it tighten the bolt and test the wheel. It may take some trial and error but in time you will get it and have the tightest brakes on the block

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    and it work a hech of alot better then rubber bands
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrt1990
    dude r u kiddin, he is the one on bmxtrix.com, u know the one thats in the videos, the one thats really good, the one thats BETTER then u, ya thought so
    You dont even know who I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjj512
    I just want to make one very important point. When you use a normal brake set up whether it be a V brake or a U brake the springs alow you the most control over where the brake pad is to the wheel. If you use this rubber band set up you have no control over this. The only way i see it working is if the pads are a reasonable distance away from the rim ( leading to very week brakes ). Before you decied that I'm wrong and your right let me tell you that I have worked on every kind of brakes and got all of them perfectly alined with the rim. Also on my bike which I work on the most the brake pads are literly millimeters away from the rim and dont touch it at all and I got this to work by just taking ten minutes to adjust the springs.

    To adjust U brake springs you need and adjustable wrench and a hex key that fits the socket. First you tighten the wrench around the outer spring casing. Then you loosen the bolt with the hex key. Now you can adjust the spring by turning the wrench. When the spring is where you think you need it tighten the bolt and test the wheel. It may take some trial and error but in time you will get it and have the tightest brakes on the block

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    why are you telling me how to adjust brakes.. do you think I never had springs on my brakes? I had them for 4 years until I put the rubber bands on like 2 years ago. And do you ride street? Because if you did, theres no way youd be able to run your brakes that tight becasue of constant beetings on your rims...

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    How can ANY of you say that the rubber bands dont work if you never tried it out? you guys are a bunch of jerks, you really are. How often have you done this to each other? When some one suggested a mod, you told them it was bad. SAy thank you, I'll try it, or nothing at all. Theres people here asking how to fix their brakes and you dont do this to them. why not? you guys are really jerks.

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    There are people who will try it because you suggest it... They should also know all the pitfalls of what they are about to do.

    You still haven't addressed how to adjust tension and balance between the brake pads to properly center them.

    The point that it WILL work is something I said above, but there are definite pitfalls to doing it with rubber bands (hair bands, etc.) instead of using the springs that come with the brakes. It takes two minutes to adjust 990's or Evolvers... So, why would someone do it a different way when the current way is excellent?

    That's all I'm asking... I just want to know why you think it is better to do it with rubber bands instead of the springs. I mean, you say "You hate working on the springs" but you don't ever have to take the springs out or anything and it takes two minutes to adjust them to perfection... so how are rubber bands better?

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    if rubber bands are so great, and have zero maintenance, then why hasnt every brake company switched to rubber band style brakes? it would save them so much money, cuz rubber bands are so cheap.

    and hey, if rubber bands work on brakes, why dont we use them elsewhere? like for a chain!!! i can tie a whole bunch of rubber bands together, and get rid of that pesky oil guzzling super heavy unrelialable chain!!! phew what a relief, i always hated have a metal chain. rubber band chains will last forever, i know bc ive had a rubber band chain on my fixed gear for like 5 years.

    oo oo, i have a better idea, how about rubber band stems?? if i put enough rubber bands around the steerer tube and the handlebars, that will surely work, and save weight to boot!!! the best thing is the rubber band stem will out last any METAL stem, i mean your rubber band ghetto brakes have been working for TWO WHOLE YEARS!! AWESOME!

    ahhh the rubber band possibilities. im working on a compressed rubber band frame next. imagine never bending a frame again..... oh the possibilities.

    oh and one more thing kiddies, IN NO WAY IS THIS RUBBER BANDS FOR BRAINS FOOL REPRESENTATIVE OF MY FAIR CITY, PHILADELPHIA.

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    Damn... that was kind of harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMXTRIX
    There are people who will try it because you suggest it... They should also know all the pitfalls of what they are about to do.

    You still haven't addressed how to adjust tension and balance between the brake pads to properly center them.

    The point that it WILL work is something I said above, but there are definite pitfalls to doing it with rubber bands (hair bands, etc.) instead of using the springs that come with the brakes. It takes two minutes to adjust 990's or Evolvers... So, why would someone do it a different way when the current way is excellent?

    That's all I'm asking... I just want to know why you think it is better to do it with rubber bands instead of the springs. I mean, you say "You hate working on the springs" but you don't ever have to take the springs out or anything and it takes two minutes to adjust them to perfection... so how are rubber bands better?
    I didnt say it was better.. I said it was neat.. Its not better to have a piece of chain as your detangler, but I did for a while. It's just neat. You can totally get your brakes dialed with springs.. It's just think its neat and was sharing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legalize_it
    if rubber bands are so great, and have zero maintenance, then why hasnt every brake company switched to rubber band style brakes? it would save them so much money, cuz rubber bands are so cheap.

    and hey, if rubber bands work on brakes, why dont we use them elsewhere? like for a chain!!! i can tie a whole bunch of rubber bands together, and get rid of that pesky oil guzzling super heavy unrelialable chain!!! phew what a relief, i always hated have a metal chain. rubber band chains will last forever, i know bc ive had a rubber band chain on my fixed gear for like 5 years.

    oo oo, i have a better idea, how about rubber band stems?? if i put enough rubber bands around the steerer tube and the handlebars, that will surely work, and save weight to boot!!! the best thing is the rubber band stem will out last any METAL stem, i mean your rubber band ghetto brakes have been working for TWO WHOLE YEARS!! AWESOME!

    ahhh the rubber band possibilities. im working on a compressed rubber band frame next. imagine never bending a frame again..... oh the possibilities.

    oh and one more thing kiddies, IN NO WAY IS THIS RUBBER BANDS FOR BRAINS FOOL REPRESENTATIVE OF MY FAIR CITY, PHILADELPHIA.
    Yea.. rubber bands for brains straight A student and your a person who rants on about pot smoking. I think we should meet up some time soon and have a good conversation about me not representing your fair city...
    thats my arm, so dont talk to me about love or representation of "your" city. How does having rubber bands on my brakes make me not represent Philly? Really.. I dont have a problem with springs.. I built my friend a bike the other day and put springs on his brakes.. My road bike has springs on the brakes.. I just saw the spring thing at woodward a few years ago and thought it was neat and thought I'de share it with you. Meet me outside art institute tuesday at about 12:00. I'de really love to talk to you.

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    I was also making my way into the fixie section of the boards because I'm converting my raod bike.. without rubber bands.. and I'de also assume that maybe you know chris(cripiter). He was the person who told me about this board and I dont think he thinks Im as much of jerk as you guys do for no reason.

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    and just to make it obvious... I seriously am saying to meet up with me to talk.. no confrontations implied.. I seriously just want to talk to you about bikes.. dont think otherwsie.

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