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Old 01-13-05, 03:38 AM   #1
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Spokes

wat r good spokes i want to know wat they r made of and y r they so good
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Old 01-13-05, 02:42 PM   #2
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If you need 14G spokes(like the mojority of the riders in the world) than you should go with the 14G stainless They are the strongest 14G spokes you can buy. But if you want to go a little more heavy duty(key word "heavy") than you should check out some 12G spokes wich are heavier than 14G but are thicker so in turn they are stronger. I you're worried about weight then you should go with 14/15G stainless double-butted, wich tapers from 14G to 15G in the center to save weight. Just pick whatever fits you and your ride.
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Old 01-13-05, 03:07 PM   #3
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Once again we are in that area of - "What do YOU want in your product?"

Price, strength, weight, color?

Titanium spokes are crazy expensive and are more durable than steel. They usually weigh less than steel spokes, but because Ti can stretch somewhat, then you are likely to need to regularly true your wheels to compensate for this.

Double butted, stainless steel spokes, in my opinion, are the best value. Just a few bucks more than straight gauge spokes and you save some weight while maintaining strength at the most critical point of contact - the spoke and the hub and the spoke and the rim.

Straight gauge, stainless steel spokes are an excellent value and cost less than the others listed. They work and are high quality. These 14 gauge spokes are probably the most common spoke that are run by riders. 12 gauge is almost always overkill and adds a lot of weight to your ride.

I am not aware of any brand names actually being better than their more generic counterparts, but you can almost always count on the Marwi type spoke to be of the highest quality out there. So, spending money on that brand name may give you more peace of mind than anything else. Since spokes (except Ti) aren't really that expensive, going with a brand name won't break the bank.
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Old 01-13-05, 07:51 PM   #4
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what type of person or bike uses 15 gauge spokes? really light people? im like 120 lbs.

are 15 gauge spokes a good idea for my surly track bike?
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Old 01-13-05, 08:45 PM   #5
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i think they only come in 14/15G spokes which is ilke fifteen in teh middle and fourteen on the way outward, to save weight.
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what type of person or bike uses 15 gauge spokes? really light people? im like 120 lbs.

are 15 gauge spokes a good idea for my surly track bike?
I think that it is 14/15 gauge, but I havn't exactly looked for 15 gauge before. Either light riders or super smooth riders would use 14/15 gauge. If the your current spokes are holding up then don't bother, even if 1 or 2 breaks you should just go to your bike shop and have them replace the ones you broke. If they start to break off continualy for whatever reason then I think that you should stick with regular 14G because I think 14/15G is a waste of money because it's double the price of 14G and almost half as strong, and it doesn't even save that much weight.
14G=about 7-8 oz's
14/15G= about 3-4 oz's
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i think they only come in 14/15G spokes which is ilke fifteen in teh middle and fourteen on the way outward, to save weight.
Double-butted 14g.

And if you want excessively strong spokes that aren't too heavy, look for an old set of Camacura hollow 13g spokes. They're impossible to find these days, and they probably won't work with any hub or rim currently on the market without some drilling, but they're strong.
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That is completely inaccurate.

Double butted spokes - 14 gauge/15 gauge are about 10% weaker overall than straight gauge 14 spokes.

You gain a fair amount of weight savings by using double butted spokes which easily makes them the best value for the money between weight and strength. Especially if you are running 48 spokes.

When (if) you break spokes, then you are most likely going to have them break either at the hub, or at the rim, not in the middle. Well, double butted spokes are 14 gauge at the hub and the rim, so they are stronger where it counts, and then cut weight where strength isn't as required. The newest frames are using this concept by building frames with double butted tubing at higher stress points.

STRAIGHT gauge 15 spokes - I really don't know about as they are not appropriate for any form of BMX riding really. You may see them on much more weight oriented bikes like road bikes or maybe a bmx racing bike - but that is unlikely. Someone really weight concious may go with Titanium for the strength/weight value. But, most will stick with 14 double butted and maybe 36 hole rims instead of 48s.
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Old 01-15-05, 04:59 PM   #9
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Dt or Marwi spokes, 14 gauge is all that is necassary really
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