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Old 02-20-05, 02:50 AM   #1
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brakeless

i gotta couple questions on this subject:

1, howcome i ride better brakeless?
2, howcome brake systems(in general) are so HEAVY for their size?
3, howcome people think i'm a lunatic to ride brakeless?

pls answer any and all questions u can.

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1. Because you have a mental block when you have brakes on?
2. Because they're made of metal. They're not really that heavy...
3. Because you are.
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Old 02-20-05, 04:27 PM   #3
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1. Brakeless is a state of mind. Wrap your hands around your grips and you don't have brakes, pull a finger off and put it on your lever... you do.

2. Brakes needs to be fairly stiff to be effective and use steel bolts and some hardware usually which increases weight. Heavy? Not really, but definitely a noticable amount of weight. In one week your body weight probably fluctuates the amount that your brakes would weigh though.

3. Nothing wrong with brakeless riders as long as you don't have anyone else around you when you are on your bike EVER. I don't think brakeless riders are crazy, but I have seen them run into others more than a dozen times and the ONLY person to blame is the guy without brakes. When two people are headed towards each other, both need to be able to stop. Whether the guy without brakes is or isn't in the right-of-way, he is the one out of control. Put him in front of a car....

Anyway, I have always loved my brakes and despite most of my friends riding without them, I have seen about half put them back on after riding my bike for 15 or 20 minutes... Brakes open up doorways when you use them. They are just another tool to expand horizons in freestyle.
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Old 02-20-05, 08:41 PM   #4
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1. That would be a question for you to answer.. so answer it.
2. I dont think the word heavey deserves capitalization for this question.
3. I don't know, cause you are just sooooo crazy. That would be a propper use of altering a word to set it apart from the sentence, in this case to imply sarcasm.

To bmxtrix, it depends on the person riding brakeless.. My two main riding buddies ride brakeless, they both control themselves well and I dont run into them.
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Old 02-21-05, 01:18 AM   #5
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Back in the day (before you guys were born) we used to roll up onto things, grab the brake to lock the back wheel, and hop out backwards. Does that work without a brake? Oh, and we didn't have Gyros because we never had a front brake.
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Old 02-21-05, 02:05 AM   #6
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sounds like an ibubica, but not on a quarter pipe, and in that case, it can be done brakesless.. and im pretty sure bmxtrix was alive at the time, and not everyone here uses a gyro, or front brakes, including myself.
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Old 02-21-05, 12:41 PM   #7
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We didn't have Gyros because we never had a front brake.
Gyros are for the rear brakes; the Pott's Mod is what you're thinking of.
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thanks thats just more for me than
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yes ibubica are possible with no brakes you just need good balance and control
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i do them all the time. i lean back, and i push forward on the crank
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Ok, I haven't spent more than 5 minutes on a 20" BMX in 20 years. Someone get this thread back on track.
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yes ibubica are possible with no brakes you just need good balance and control

What is an ibubica?
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Abubaca - Original name by Ron Wilkerson and done on vert about 20 years ago. It is when you launch out of a ramp, land on the rear tire on the coping of the ramp and then pull back and come in fakie and ride out. Originally done on vert, though likely he had done it on street for a long time before moving it up to vert.

A similar concept would be tailtap to fakie.
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Abubaca - Original name by Ron Wilkerson and done on vert about 20 years ago. It is when you launch out of a ramp, land on the rear tire on the coping of the ramp and then pull back and come in fakie and ride out. Originally done on vert, though likely he had done it on street for a long time before moving it up to vert.

A similar concept would be tailtap to fakie.

Oh cool, so it's basicily just a bunch of tricks put together with a fancy name. Thanks for telling me.
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No, it's a single trick. You hop, stall on the back tire on an object (be it coping, a subbox, a curb, etc, etc), and then hop backwards and land fakie.
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It's the 'fakie' part that scares me.. I think I would fall over :/
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Abubaca-African name that Willis gave to Arnold on Different Strokes.
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It's the 'fakie' part that scares me.. I think I would fall over :/
just practice rising up hills or quarter pipes or other ramps and just ride backwards and then spin yourself around. I wouldnt go attempting an abubaca before you could fakie.
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Yea i guess people without brakes just dont want them on cuz they're probably too heavy or to lighten their bikes.
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that's not it.. usually has to do with their riding, not weight.
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ya i ride brakes on my street bike and its not that bad....but riding at a skatepark with no brakes is just a quick tip to the emergency room.......so if you have two bieks like me...then run one with no brakes for street and use the other for park and trails.....this works well my park and trails bike has nice parts and has breaks ...and my street bike i thrash around with and ahs old parts that i dont need anymore like old bent wheels and no brakes...so its not a big deal if it gets messed up.... -taylor-
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opps....i mean my street bike doesnt have brakes......my bad
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how do you ride two bikes? how do you get used to two bikes . if one is for park and one is for racing, that's one thing. But one for street and one for park?
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