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    Clipless Pedels

    Could i use clipless pedals to get higher on bunnyhops?? and why are they called clipless.

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    Yes - but don't.

    They are called clipless because your feet are held onto the pedals without clips that go over your toes to hold them in place. Before clipless if you wanted your feet held in place, you needed toe clips that covered the front part of your foot entirely and were very difficult to get your foot out of quickly. Clipless pedals don't use that type of foot clip, and just connect directly to the shoe - they allow for a much quicker release from the pedal if necessary.

    Once again: Don't use clipless - learn to bunnyhop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMXTRIX
    Yes - but don't.

    They are called clipless because your feet are held onto the pedals without clips that go over your toes to hold them in place. Before clipless if you wanted your feet held in place, you needed toe clips that covered the front part of your foot entirely and were very difficult to get your foot out of quickly. Clipless pedals don't use that type of foot clip, and just connect directly to the shoe - they allow for a much quicker release from the pedal if necessary.

    Once again: Don't use clipless - learn to bunnyhop.

    Yes, I agree, don't use them, just learn to bunnyhop instead. It will get you A LOT farther down the road to being a great bmxer if you learn how to do them without clipless pedals, and there's a whole lot more tricks that involve bunnyhops than you might think so it is almost a nessecity for you to learn it. Besides, it looks cool, and it's fun, and wouldn't it be cool to be able to jump over stuff in your way instead of going around it? Just keep working at it and you'll get it eventually.




    Hey, BMXTRIX, I have a question for you (although ANY and ALL anwsers are appreciated) that I forgot to ask in my bunnyhop thread. And since I don't want to bring up anything from the dead, I thought I'd ask it here since the person that started this thread is kind of talking about bunnyhops. Ok, here it is:


    Whenever somebody asks for tips on how to do bunnyhops I always see a few people say to push forward on the bars, and I never see them say ANYTHING about lifting with the pedals. However, some people say to lift up the back end by pointing your toes and pressing backward while at the same time lifting to get the back end up and NEVER mention anything about pushing forward on the bars. So, which way is easiest? Or, should I say, which way works better and what do you already have to be able to do inorder to do either method? It seems like you'd need your front wheel pretty high off of the ground for the bar pushing method to work, but I'm not sure. And lifting the back up with the pedals seems like it would give you better leverage at any height but I can't seem to lift if any higher than seven and a half inches (unless I'm just not trying hard enough). I use the pedal lifting method, and I've never sucessfully tried the bar pushing method because I almost always end up pushing downward instead of forward.
    And whenever I try to get over seven and a half inches (using the pedal method) I usually tap it with my back tire and my feet seem to come off of the pedals which results in me not being able to get enough traction to lift the back high enough to clear it. So what in the world am I doing wrong?! EVERY STINKIN' TIME I either jump to soon, jump to late, or I jump off of the pedals even when I think I have my toes pointed enough. Well, I hope somebody can filter through this so they can anwser my questions because I really need help.


    PS: I'm sorry, I forgot to ask about 'tucking' on bunnyhops. How in the world are you suposed to do that?! Do you have to get a certain height or something? And I've noticed lately that I lean pretty for forward on my bike, would that decrease my bunnyhop height? Because I'm standing up pretty high when I do them as where it seems like (from the pictures I've seen) I should have my body way over the back of the bike. But how then, do you get the back wheel off if all of your body weight is over the back end? I must be getting my positioning wrong or something because I cannot seem to clear that seven and a half inches!! So, can somebody PLEASE help me!
    Last edited by FLyBOy; 03-15-05 at 10:54 AM.


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    Hey Flyboy I can jump alot higher now after reading this http://www.bmxbasics.org/new/bmx0703.html#rachelmid hope it helps man. I also like to try to jump over things that I think i will not beable to therefor I try so hard not to screw up my wheels and I go pretty high seem to work for me.

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    never use those pedals. you cant tailwhip, superman or any other no-footed tricks, and more importantly, you can't bail

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    the no bailing part is the worst. I have clip pedals on my fixed gear and thats bad enough when I fall.. falling is a sucky situation when your feet dont come off you pedals.. very sucky. Stay away from clippless unless you are racing.. you need special shoes for them too.. you'll get made fun of, ALOT, also if you go riding around the street with clippless pedals on a bmx bike.

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    I have read a lot of people say point your toes down or push forward on the bars... Really, what they are describing is an endo.

    After lifting the front wheel in the air, what you want to do is an endo... Only you aren't on the front wheel, it is in the air, which means you REALLY have to know how to do endos.

    It has always been tough for me to describe bunnyhops because I had endos completely dialed before I started trying bunnyhops, so I was hitting about a foot or so in my first week of trying bunnyhops.

    I really think there are a lot of little things you can do to learn the motion and to do bunnyhops.

    1. Learn endos - use a curb to stop your front wheel, jam your foot in the front wheel (not as good), or just learn to push forward on the bars and point your toes down and lift the rear wheel. You should be able to EASILY lift the rear wheel enough that you flip forward onto your face - if you can't, or struggle, then you don't have the proper motion for endos, and you won't for bunnyhops either.

    2. Hit a small jump - like 2 or 3 inches. The angle at the end of a driveway works, but nothing BIGGER than 3 inches - 1 inch is fine. When the front wheel hits lift your front wheel, then when your back wheel hits, lift it. Practice that for 15 or 20 minutes a day. This improves your timing and stops you from the nasty habit of lifting both wheels at once - BAD habit.

    3. Work on bunnyhopping over things... Start small and safe, but really, you should be clearing curbs in no time, then when you are at the 7 inch mark, try to clear some distance. A sidewalk with curbs on both sides is a good goal. You go fast and work on your technique, and you may eat crap occassionally. Or maybe it was just me.

    4. To tuck - you don't. Okay, yes you do, but it really is something that happens once you are comfortable with the motion. When you can lift the bike about 12-18 inches regularly, you will find that the motion is second nature. Then you will bend your knees. Just like you do on a really high endo. You bend your knees and tuck the seat in front of you. Extend your arms out in front of you... It all has to happen VERY quickly in one smooth motion, so it is not something you just 'do'... it is a skill you learn. Probably my best was bunnyhopping over a garbage can from flat ground to flat ground - so about 36 inches tall and a couple feet across. I was a lot younger then though.

    5. Most of all - give it time. It isn't hard to get to a reasonable height very quickly, but odds are good that you don't have all the muscles or techniques perfect for high bunnyhops. It may take a month to get to a foot - then 5 months to get to 18 inches... Then a year or more to get another 6 inches. But, you will always improve as long as you are in decent shape and work on it everytime you ride. Eventually the bunnyhop is less something that you 'practice' and it just becomes a tool that you use for a lot of other tricks.

    For me, as a flatland rider, I could do bunnyhop 360's and 180 bunnhops to rollbacks. I never did a whole lot else with them. I learned abubacas on stuff - mostly curbs.

    Have fun

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    Thank you very, very much BMXTRIX, those tips you've just listed are THE most helpful ones I've read so far. And I can definetly see how being able to do endos well would help in bunnyhopping, because it has that same bar pushing motion while at the same time tucking in and behind the seat. I've stopped practicing endos, I haven't done one with brakes for quite awhile, mostly because I've wanted to get better at foot-jam endos so I could do them without the brakes. But, even though they are similar in motion, the balancing and body posistioning is quite different in each one. So, I think I'll start practicing normal endos again because, like you suggested, it is a good thing to be able to do endos well. And as for your other tips, they were very helpful as well, thanks for taking the time to make them clear.


    I was also thinking, doesn't height have something to do with your trick ability? I mean, not like a HUGE margen, but just a little. It seems like it definetly would because if you're taller you'd have more leverage on your bike, and you'd be able to lean back farther or lean forwards farther if you were taller, right? Also, if you're taller you usually weigh more because your body is bigger, so you'd have more weight to throw around also which would help in moving your bike around. I'm not sure on all of this, I just thought it made sense. And the ONLY reason I'm saying all of this is because I'm a little short for my age, and I was thinking that might have a slight impact on some of my trick ability. That's going to change of course though. Besides riding my bike (which is very very good excersise) I do PE at least once a week, then I do another body building workout by myself later on in the day, again at least once a week. So I know I'm definetly strong, but since I'm still not an adult yet, I'm still not as strong as I'm going to be because adults are stronger than kids. And the reasong I say I'm a little short for my age is because I'm fifteen and I'm only 5'4, and my other fifteen-year-old friends are probably about 5'7 to 5'10. But, like I said, that will change in time.


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    i hope ur aware that clipless pedals are used for racing bmx and many forms of mountain biking... thats it. no street bmx no park and no dirt jump. aside from being a cheap way to get air... they're not made for that, at all.
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