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    Flugelhorn Artists

    I am in need of knowing some flugelhorn players that compose in a more upbeat style avoiding the traditional sounds of jazz. I think the best example of what I am looking for is Chuck Mangione. I have heard of Art Farmer and Dmitry Matheny, but never listened to their compositions. Roy Hargrove in Moment to Moment is not the composition style I am looking for.

    Any suggestions? Any links to samples you can give so I can hear the sound? Your help is much appreciated.

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    Sounds like you need composers who incidentally use various types of horns in their compositions. trumpet, cornet, flugelhorn, french horns, etc.

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    Sometimes going to and using a site like Pandora can lead you to artists and musicians that you might otherwise miss. Let their search and match engine be a tool for you. Set up a channel for Chuck, give him a thumbs up, then pay attention to others that come into your queue, give the ones you like a thumbs up and you'll start to get more selections that might sync in tune with your goals.

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    Guido Basso is a well known Canadian flugelhorn player. Not sure if it's a flugelhorn he is playing in this video, as he also plays the trumpet, and I frankly don't know the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    Guido Basso is a well known Canadian flugelhorn player. Not sure if it's a flugelhorn he is playing in this video, as he also plays the trumpet, and I frankly don't know the difference.
    That's a trumpet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    A Bb trumpet, to be specific, although it's the only one commonly played by jazz musicians. The C trumpet is the standard orchestral trumpet in most orchestras (with some major exceptions in Europe).

    For the OP, plenty of jazz artists have doubled on flugel for pieces that are suited better for the sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qcpmsame View Post
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    How many flugelhorn players are also cyclists and over 50 years old?

    Did Chuck Mangione ever bicycle much?

    What is the best way to carry a flugelhorn on a bicycle?

    (Just trying to negate the IBTM comment )
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    Quote Originally Posted by treebound View Post
    How many flugelhorn players are also cyclists and over 50 years old?

    Did Chuck Mangione ever bicycle much?

    What is the best way to carry a flugelhorn on a bicycle?

    (Just trying to negate the IBTM comment )
    Post #5 might be enough to save it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mprelaw View Post
    The C trumpet is the standard orchestral trumpet in most orchestras
    Are you sure about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by treebound View Post
    What is the best way to carry a flugelhorn on a bicycle?
    Not quite a flugelhorn, but my friend Alicia is a professional brass player who used to ride with a Bb pocket trumpet strapped to her saddle just in case the opportunity to perform came during a ride:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    Not quite a flugelhorn, but my friend Alicia is a professional brass player who used to ride with a Bb pocket trumpet strapped to her saddle just in case the opportunity to perform came during a ride:

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    Now that is neat.
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    Kenny Wheeler !!
    Look for the early stuff on ECM, "Gnu High" "Deer Wan"
    You'll find sound samples on Amazon and some tracks on Youtube.
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    Too late to prevent the move, but before I got my driver's license, I bicycled to summer marching band practice with my B flat trumpet on the rear rack of my Schwinn Corvette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treebound View Post
    Sometimes going to and using a site like Pandora can lead you to artists and musicians that you might otherwise miss. Let their search and match engine be a tool for you. Set up a channel for Chuck, give him a thumbs up, then pay attention to others that come into your queue, give the ones you like a thumbs up and you'll start to get more selections that might sync in tune with your goals.

    Hope this helps a little in some way.
    Great idea. I will register with Pandora!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    Are you sure about that?
    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargeon View Post
    Kenny Wheeler !!
    Look for the early stuff on ECM, "Gnu High" "Deer Wan"
    You'll find sound samples on Amazon and some tracks on Youtube.
    This was my intro to Kenny Wheeler - love his playing and compositions:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mprelaw View Post
    Yup.
    :::sigh::: Okay, what's your source?

    I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just trying to figure out whether this is some fairly recent sea change in orchestral brass modus operandi, or if professional trumpet players have always been so good natured and accomodating that they don't even bat an eye when you hand them stuff and expect them to sight-transpose? When I was composing for orchestral players (mid-1990s) they always got parts written for Bb trumpet...and I can't say I ever saw a player reach down to swap instruments when they played my pieces.

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    :sigh: OK, let me start with the Big 2.

    NY Philharmonic trumpet section: C trumpets across the board.

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    Chicago Symphony trumpets: C's across the board.

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    You want me to track down Boston, LA, Cleveland, and maybe London, or will you take my word for it?
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    Well, at least one guy up in Boston still uses a Bb.

    bso.trumpets.jpg

    BTW, these guys transpose so easily that it's no big deal. You're talking about people who operate on a different level than most of the rest of us.

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    How far down the rankings of orchestras do you want to go----here's the Valdosta Symphony with a few guest performers---10 trumpeters, and not a single Bb in sight.

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