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Old 12-21-04, 09:21 PM   #1876
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The One AM Radio / Jerome's Dream 7"

This just came today and I just listened through both sides a few times. The One AM Radio song, "Cast/Away," is Hirishikesh at his slow and sappy best, and I think the first time he had anyone else joining along with him. Jane Yakowitz playing violin, and Joseph Grimm (who also recorded this in his living room) on pedal steel. The Jerome's Dream song, which is untitled, is awesome...all sinister bass and twinkly guitar. Awesome until the vocals and guitars kick in; then it's just typical, boring Jerome's Dream. If I ever need a good intro for a tape, I may use the bass/twinkly guitar bit at the beginning for it. I still say this is one of the weirdest splits since Born Against and Screeching Weasel.
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I'm going to have to politely disagree with you on that one. If I never have to hear Bright Eyes, or Conor Oberst's voice in any context, that won't bother me one bit.

Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. What turned you off?

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On the other hand, "Rock n Roll" fell into the top ten albums I'm embarrased for having purchased this year...
Yea, I like it and own it but find it sort of flat in many ways and derivative for sure. He has some great parts and a few good songs but he's a bit too much of a throw back. I enjoyed Love Is Hell far more, even if it is a wrist slitter.
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Bright Eyes is auditory death. Both in the sense that it makes you wish you were dead in order to escape the sound, and in the sense that if anyone deliberately plays it in my presence again, I will bludgeon them to death with a Led Zeppelin box set an hope that the offending party thereby gains better taste in music in the afterlife.



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Wow, that's a pretty strong statement. What turned you off?
Do you have a band that always seems to be sharing the bill (and thereby driving up the ticket price) with a band you love? When you're selling merchandise for some other band and everyone comes up to you to ask if you're selling merch for the band you hate? The band that you hate and that wherever you go someone always seems to be playing the CD? That shaky voice that won't stop gnawing out your eyeballs? For me, that's Bright Eyes, specifically Conor's voice. I have similar feelings about Stephen Meritt, but I'll shut up before I get beat up by the indie kids.
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Merry Christmas, Mr. Radlein - Compilation
A coworker of mine threw this together for me. Very cool to walk into work and find a disc waiting for you. Some of the tracks:
These Days - NICO
Yes it's true - Flaming Groovies
Ex-Girl Collection - The Wrens
Stop Your Sobbing - J. Richman
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...but I'll shut up before I get beat up by the indie kids.
No, see, you're thinking of emo kids. And there's no threat there, anyway. They're all too busy sulking in too-small sweaters to raise their soft little fists in anger.

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No, see, you're thinking of emo kids. And there's no threat there, anyway. They're all too busy sulking in too-small sweaters to raise their soft little fists in anger.

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Uh, no, see, he is thinking of ****** Indie kids. I figured since you're named after a piss-poor shell of formerly good bands (Rites of Spring and Embrace, the originators of the "Emo" sound), you'd have some idea of the origins of the genre and it's current status. I guess I was wrong. Either way, Bright Eyes has nothing to do with "Emo." And speaking of raising fists in anger; Rites of Spring, Embrace, and yes, even Fugazi, were bands started as a protest against the degredation of the Hardcore/Punk scene in the DC area.

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thank you for continually encapsulating every aspect of "punk/indie/emo" music. I am nauseated.
Maybe next you could categorize the ever changing moods of Ian MacKaye and his musical endeavors based on clothing and hair length.
Get a clue. Seriously.
We don't need your lessons on music. Unless you are working with Alex Trebec on the new "Alternative Jeopardy."
Make sure you cover Corporate Punk-Pop. That's the cash cow man...

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Oh, sorry for defending a (counter)culture which has meant more to me than anything else ever has. I guess I should just sit by and let the ignorant make false assumptions about something that means the world to other people, right?
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things aren't always so black and white, on either side here. Insightfulness - give it a try.
Everything changes. Over 20 years in "the scene" (yeah, I hate it but use as those who understand, understand). Seen tons of changes. So what? Raising fists to some cause in "the scene" is like breathing. Happens all the time, in a variety of facets. You're not the first, and you know you're not the last...

Defend what you will, but know one thing:
This music can really never be fully defined. That is why it sticks so well with some. It is beyond enigmatic for me, on most every front, and energizes me like nothing else. I share the passion, but let it do what it must. I do not know the lyrics of every Gorilla Biscuits song. Does that make me less Straight Edge? (No - the beer drinking does though)
Maybe I should revert back to Stiff Little Fingers, the Clash, Angelic Upstarts, the Blitz, the Saints and correct everyone about how to wear their braces and what color laces in your Docs are acceptable when going to Bleeker Bob's.
Just be careful when you start pigeon-holing. Unless you are gunning for a slot as Assistant the the Apprentice's Assistant to the Janitor of the Assistant Editor of Rolling Stone magazine.
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Uh, no, see, he is thinking of ****** Indie kids. I figured since you're named after a piss-poor shell of formerly good bands (Rites of Spring and Embrace, the originators of the "Emo" sound), you'd have some idea of the origins of the genre and it's current status. I guess I was wrong. Either way, Bright Eyes has nothing to do with "Emo." And speaking of raising fists in anger; Rites of Spring, Embrace, and yes, even Fugazi, were bands started as a protest against the degredation of the Hardcore/Punk scene in the DC area.

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Maybe it was a joke and you shouldn't take yourself and everyone else so seriously. I know the origins of the genres, I know where the bands supposedly fall. I also know how the words are applied now regardless of their origins.

Get over it. Get over yourself.

Oh yeah, and Bright Eyes still blows.
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Defend what you will, but know one thing:
This music can really never be fully defined.
No, it can't be precisely defined...but even by the loosest historically correct definitions, Bright Eyes has nothing to do with it.

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Joke or not, I take it seriously. To me, it's not something to joke about. Reinforcing the mainstream (mis)conceptions only further bastardises things...whether it's done in a joking manner, or not.

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I wasn't arguing against that at all. I agree to the fullest extent possible.
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I wasn't arguing against that at all. I agree to the fullest extent possible.
Now we're getting somewhere...

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but even by the loosest historically correct definitions, Bright Eyes has nothing to do with it.
when the F did I say anything about Bright Eyes? I have never even heard them.
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