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    Yeah, take at least two rest/recovery days prior to the ride 3 works best for me but everyone is different). If you are going to do hills, intervals, or a hard ride do them today and tomorrow so you have plenty of time to recover. Eat a relatively normal mean the night before like grahny said if you are not used to 'carb-loading' or have never done it before it can cause problems. Just eat something good the morning of with protein and carbs.

    My best advice is this: don't eat something really spicy the night before-I made that mistake before previewing the course a couple weeks ago.

    Also, I don't think that I stressed this as much as I meant to in my previous post-The engine is right-this can be a very dangerous course, so BE CAREFUL!!! Take it easy on the down hills, there will probably be a lot of riders not used to group rides on a lot of narrow roads with poor pavement and a lot of sharp blind turns. Let's keep it safe!

    BTW I heard a rumor that Lance will be riding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJackMove View Post
    Also, I don't think that I stressed this as much as I meant to in my previous post-The engine is right-this can be a very dangerous course, so BE CAREFUL!!! Take it easy on the down hills, there will probably be a lot of riders not used to group rides on a lot of narrow roads with poor pavement and a lot of sharp blind turns. Let's keep it safe!
    I'll 2nd this... a lot of times on these mass group/charity rides there are a lot of people who have never been in a group before. Plus throw in the possibility of rain along with the rough roads, turns, downhills etc, and you're just asking for disaster. Keep the focus, pay attention out there, and be safe. It's not a race, so there's nothing to prove other than getting to the finish line in one piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJackMove View Post
    BTW I heard a rumor that Lance will be riding...
    It would be cool if he rode it at a casual pace and hung back all day to give motivation to those of us who are going to be suffering ... hopefully he won't just hammer it with the fast paced riders up front if he does ride.

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    Rode the Tour of Hope a few years ago and Lance started at the very front with some Bristol Myers riders as they were chief sponsor

    Then he dropped off after a few miles

    Hope it is a longer time on Sunday to try and catch up and ride alongside him

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahny View Post
    EDIT: I've mapped the ride out and have tcx & gpx GPS files for the 100 mile route if anyone wants them (for Garmin). According to the file, the ride is 96 miles and 8,343ft of climbing, with the big climbs in the 8-9% grade range... lots of 3-5% climbs. PM me if you'd like the files.
    Grahny,

    I have a Garmin 305 and would like to get a copy of your gpx file. I was mapping it out on mapmyride.com for over a hour and lost connectivity. I too have a Garmin 305 so I guess I can upload the gpx file to it. Iíll pm you my email address, thanks.

    My long rides on the weekend are between 70-85 miles with the accent elevation being between 5000-6000 feet. Most of that is at 8-10% with some steep climbs at 13-16%.

    I read some other post that people said some of the 100 mile Philly course climbs where higher grade than 8-9%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tasr View Post
    Grahny,

    I have a Garmin 305 and would like to get a copy of your gpx file. I was mapping it out on mapmyride.com for over a hour and lost connectivity. I too have a Garmin 305 so I guess I can upload the gpx file to it. I’ll pm you my email address, thanks.

    My long rides on the weekend are between 70-85 miles with the accent elevation being between 5000-6000 feet. Most of that is at 8-10% with some steep climbs at 13-16%.

    I read some other post that people said some of the 100 mile Philly course climbs where higher grade than 8-9%.


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    Just sent you the file.

    Yeah, I'm guessing the bigger climbs just average around 8-9% with sections of them higher than that. It'll be challenging for me I know I'm running a standard crank (53/39) but put a 12-27 cassette on.

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    Tasr,

    I've put some quality time into mapmyride.com as well, only to have the work unexplainably go to waste due to some technical problem. Anyway, I found this to be a good option - just search in the location box, "Blue Bell, PA," and you'll find someone already mapped it out: LiveStrong Challenge Philadelphia 2007.

    This link might take you directly there:

    http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united...bell/712240395

    I can't attest to its accuracy, but it'll probably be faster comparing the route to the cue sheet than trying to plot the thing from scratch.

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    I was mapping it out on mapmyride.com for over a hour and lost connectivity. James

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    I mapped out mine out following the cue sheet... It's pretty accurate (albiet a gazillion track points )

    I just checked that one on mapmyride and it's just about exactly the same, so it should get you along the route just fine.
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    Picked up my # and stuff this morning... I'm #410, so if anyone is out there on the century route, feel free to say hi.

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    I'll be looking for you, grahny. I'll be wearing my Pink Fatcyclist.com jersey. I think my number is 876 or 867.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncadan8 View Post
    I'll be looking for you, grahny. I'll be wearing my Pink Fatcyclist.com jersey. I think my number is 876 or 867.
    Cool... I keep an eye out. I'll be wearing a white giordana jersey... actually, just like this guy (wait, that's me! ):

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    Just got home. I would officially like to say that that course was F'N BRUTAL. I surprised myself and did it in 5:55 including stops. About 90% solo too 'cause everyone was so spread out due to all the climbing (haven't done a century in over a year too... not too shabby )

    My abridged ride report:
    -Miles 0-21 were relatively fast, with the first group (I was up front, near LA, but not close enough to test him for doping). The first 21 miles were done in just under an hour.

    -Miles 22-35 were good, but that climb just before 35 left me ready to puke at the rest stop just after it, and left me wondering if I was even going to be able to finish. I found out however that cantelope still tastes good when you're ready to blow chunks

    -Miles 36-51 I don't remember. I know that 35-48 felt like FOREVER.. and the last really big climb around mile 51 I was out of all liquids. Not fun.

    -Lunch... yum yum, hot dogs. Some lady said "how much longer for you guys? you've been out here a couple hours, what? like and hour more or so?" HAHAHAHAHAHA... I said. More like 3+.. She gasped in horror.. I headed off

    -Miles 52-80 were awesome. A lot of hills still, but I had wind #7,561 and was flying on the few flats with no draft (25+mph easy). I spent most of the day in zones 3 & 4 (HR) and all the climbs at the top of zone 5. Kept running into a few of the same folks from time to time for a quick chat and then a hill would hit and either I'd lose them, or they'd lose me. It was around mile 60 or so that I knew for sure I was going to make it, and close to mile 80 I realized I could do it in sub 6hrs... the adrenaline started to flow at that point.

    -Miles 80-95 were even better. We merged at some point with the 70 & 40 mile riders, and I was blowing past them one at a time, trying to give words of encouragement as I went.

    -Miles 95-end was a full out sprint at about 27mph (ok, a sprint with whatever I had left in me ) to the finish, with a sudden stop at the stop light right before the community college.

    I think the event itself was organized fairly well, other than the late start. The local & state police were awesome in stopping traffic for everyone and the volunteers were always encouraging. SAG seemed to be around every turn, which gave a feeling of comfort knowing help was there if you needed it. The route was very difficult, and some of the roads SUCKED (fresh chip seal anyone? bah!).

    Personally though, I think they made it too hard for the general cycling population. I know there's probably a lot of people out there who would take a big event like this as an opportunity to complete their first century and the LAF should recognize that in their planning. 100 miles is difficult enough, but throwing in 8,000+ ft and several very steep climbs caused a lot to call in SAG or reroute to the 70mi route. I saw a lot of people walking their bikes. It could be disheartening to those people, especially if they can't complete it. I saw someone calling it quits around mile 40 and calling in SAG. Stopped halfway up a climb, and he seemed really disappointed in himself (I would be too). For a lot this was more a nightmare than a challenge and the fun was sucked right out of it. The LAF could make it hilly and challenging without making it brutal... make it so that no one will have to walk, and everyone should be able to complete it. There are other century rides out there to sign up for for those that want the sh*t kicked out of them. I found it to be challenging at my skill level, and could have even done more climbing, but I'm glad it ended when it did. I was thinking at one point how nice it would have been to have a triple .. I ran a 53-39 w/ 12-27... used my 24 a lot, and my 27 on the tough ones.

    Hope everyone had a good ride and no crashes/incidents to report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grahny View Post
    Just got home. I would officially like to say that that course was F'N BRUTAL. I surprised myself and did it in 5:55 including stops. About 90% solo too 'cause everyone was so spread out due to all the climbing (haven't done a century in over a year too... not too shabby )
    Congratulations! You should be very pleased with your time on that course. I agree 100% with your description of the course

    Quote Originally Posted by grahny View Post
    -Miles 80-95 were even better. We merged at some point with the 70 & 40 mile riders, and I was blowing past them one at a time, trying to give words of encouragement as I went..
    One of those riders might have been me....thanks for the encouragement. I chose to do the 40 (really 44.7) due to old age, high humidity and a drive back to Ohio after the event

    Quote Originally Posted by grahny View Post
    I think the event itself was organized fairly well, other than the late start. The local & state police were awesome in stopping traffic for everyone and the volunteers were always encouraging. SAG seemed to be around every turn, which gave a feeling of comfort knowing help was there if you needed it. The route was very difficult, and some of the roads SUCKED (fresh chip seal anyone? bah!).

    Personally though, I think they made it too hard for the general cycling population. I know there's probably a lot of people out there who would take a big event like this as an opportunity to complete their first century and the LAF should recognize that in their planning. 100 miles is difficult enough, but throwing in 8,000+ ft and several very steep climbs caused a lot to call in SAG or reroute to the 70mi route. I saw a lot of people walking their bikes. It could be disheartening to those people, especially if they can't complete it. I saw someone calling it quits around mile 40 and calling in SAG. Stopped halfway up a climb, and he seemed really disappointed in himself (I would be too). For a lot this was more a nightmare than a challenge and the fun was sucked right out of it. The LAF could make it hilly and challenging without making it brutal... make it so that no one will have to walk, and everyone should be able to complete it. There are other century rides out there to sign up for for those that want the sh*t kicked out of them. I found it to be challenging at my skill level, and could have even done more climbing, but I'm glad it ended when it did. I was thinking at one point how nice it would have been to have a triple .. I ran a 53-39 w/ 12-27... used my 24 a lot, and my 27 on the tough ones.

    Hope everyone had a good ride and no crashes/incidents to report.
    A couple times I tapped my Garmin because I thought the grade reading was stuck in the 7-10% range. I even saw one 17% reading I have a triple on my bike and I used every one of those gears. Even the 40 mile course was a little tough for the average rider. I do a lot of riding and rode the event last year so I was prepared for hills. We encountered the 17% hill after the 40 mile cutoff from the 70/100 mile route.

    There was no chance I would catch LA on the course but I did have him pass me in the other direction. I was spinning up one of those hills when a SUV and a couple motorcycle policemen approached me with a rider behind them. Yep! It was LA on his return route. I got a smile and wave as he passed

    The volunteers and residents along the route were fantastic. Near Harleysville in the middle of one of those long gradual climbs was a father and his 3 young daughters passing out iced bottled water to riders. I didn't need water but I welcomed the break from the heat and the climb and enjoyed chatting with the family and others who had stopped.
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    I think it was a great day overall, I did the 70. and I got off on 3 occasions and walked to the top of the hill. I figured that if spent all my energy on the last half of the climb on those three particular hill then i couldn't finish, two of the hills were just brutal and the 3 i was in the wrong gear when ai got to pedaling that I lost all my momentum to try to get up...Oh well... where i live in south jersey there arent any hills. I think i did pretty good for starting riding in April. The people were nice, The cops and state police guys were all world, the sag and the rest stop volunteers were great... also the national guard did a great job. all in all a great event where do i sign up for next year?

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    It's Monday morning ... I'm a little sluggish today.

    I thought the ride went well. It was the toughest century I've ever done. Usually I average around 15 mph on a hilly 100 mile ride ... I averaged 12.2 on this one. The hills were brutal, especially a few 20% climbs, or sections that were out there. I saw alot of people walking their bikes up many of the climbs. Especially the many climbs after the "monster" at mile 55. It was very long, and very steep in spots, and I think it just knocked the hell out of everybody. I never got off and walked, and for a 245 lb. guy, that ain't bad. I love climbing, and have lived in hilly areas all my life, but to carry my weight up-hill, is where I lose time on these kinds of rides. On the flats, I keep up with the rabbits, on the descents I am a rabbit, but on the climbs I'm a turtle for sure. I saw 3 mph. on my cyclometer many times on this ride ... I was down in my 34/27 ... I took my granny gear off for one season, I'm glad I put it back on, and I'm not afraid to use it. There was one climb the locals called "Carl's hill". I don't remember the exact mileage of it, but it was 20% for about a 1/4 mile ... I was doing 2.7 mph. The people walking up, were climbing at the same speed as I was.

    This ride was certainly a challenge, and I finished slow, but the last 10 miles I was hammering, and still had something left when I crossed the finish. I'll be back next year, even if it's the same course. I hope for the sake of the casual riders that get involved in an event such as this, the organization makes it easier, so more people can finish ... that is what this type of ride is really all about. It is important for the participants to have a great experience, and want to come back, and raise funds for LAF the next year. This coarse was not fun. Until you passed under the yellow balloon arch, and heard them anounce your name as you crossed, this couse was a study in pure cycling brutality.

    BTW, I delivered my Dads eulogy on Saturday. He died from cancer. I was not sure how this ride would go for me, but he was with me every pedal stroke. I am also proud of the $2,705 I raised for LAF in his memory. This event was the beginning of a foundation that my wife and I will start, in order to support LAF throughout the year. It is only in the planning stages now, but we hope the AlRoNan Foundation (http://philly07.livestrong.org/alronan) will soon be able to boast of our support of the LAF ... we are looking at producing a concert in the Philly area next year as our first charity event.

    I'll start my training for the 2008 Livestrong Challenge tomorrow ... my bike needs a rest day, today.
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    Yeah, my thighs are so sore, I am not getting up from my desk today if I can avoid it.
    I did the 70 also, and those hills were just brutal. I am not used to that much climbing. I swear that triple ring saved my life a few times. I almost never use the baby ring when I ride, and this is probably the first time I have ever used it multiple times in one ride. My future bikes will ALL have triples now after this experience.
    Flatted out once, and nearly ate it when I dipped off the pavement onto the grass but managed to recover.
    Did the 70 in about 5 flat- not impressive, but a hell of an accomplishment by my personal standards.

    Overall it was a great time, a real challenge, and I was able to surpass my fund raising goal of $1000 easily. I was really inspired by the number of survivors on the ride ranging from little kids to elderly folks- it was truly an experience.

    Also +1 on the SAG Cars, course workers and local police- they were really excellent in making sure we had a safe ride throughout the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the engine View Post

    BTW, I delivered my Dads eulogy on Saturday. He died from cancer. I was not sure how this ride would go for me, but he was with me every pedal stroke. I am also proud of the $2,705 I raised for LAF in his memory. This event was the beginning of a foundation that my wife and I will start, in order to support LAF throughout the year. It is only in the planning stages now, but we hope the AlRoNan Foundation (http://philly07.livestrong.org/alronan) will soon be able to boast of our support of the LAF ... we are looking at producing a concert in the Philly area next year as our first charity event.
    So sorry to hear that. Congrats on finishing though. Post back when you have your foundation started. I'll be more than happy to attend/donate to any events you have.

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    I remember thinking two things along the way:

    1. Why oh why do I not have a compact or a triple on my bike right now
    2. I should have rode my cross bike through this fresh chip seal... everyone will be getting new tires on Monday

    My front hub is toast too. The left side bearings took a beating and started grinding somewhere around mile 60 yesterday. I feel pretty good today all things considering... if it wasn't for the hub, I'd be out on a recovery ride... albeit I'm a little sore

    I just filled out the survey they emailed out and made comments about the course. For me it was tough, but more than doable. They need to cater it to the masses though so that people can walk away feeling accomplished and no one walks away disappointed in themselves. There were waaaaaay too many people walking... and not enough smiles out there.
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    Congrats to everyone who participated.

    I agree, that was (as I knew it would be) brutal. I think the sentiment here is right on-it was too tough and too dangerous for the masses. I managed the 100 mile in 5:59, and I saw some nasty crashes along the way and heard about even more. There were definitely too many people walking, especially towards the end of the 40 and 70 mile rides. I also just filled out that survey they sent out this morning.

    I have to say that I really loved the challenge, there were a few times that I also was wondering why I did not have a compact.

    Did anyone else see the guy doing the 100 on a single speed? He was keeping up pretty well, at least through 50 or 60 miles, I did not see him after that. He kept passing me on the climbs and then I would pass him on the descents On one climb, as he passed me, I said "how ya feeling?", he gave me a dirty look and said "things are not going so well right now." Then I told him he was a wuss for not riding a fixie...he didn't seem to have a sense of humor about it at that point in time.
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    Two years ago, a guy named Dave Hickey, who is associated with Roadbikereview, did The Ride for the Roses on a fixie. I came up on him at about mile 50 and we had a pleasant conversation. He didn't seem to be having any problem. I think he finished in a little over 6 hrs.

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    The Ride

    Toughest Century I ever did

    The hills kept on coming but I am a good climber so it was not too much of an issue

    I do agree they have to make it easier for the masses as too many people were walking up the hills

    My biggest issue was the rest stops. You rely on them for food and drink that agrees with you. I like fruit punch gatorade and chocolate gels. I can't carry all that with me and the lemon/lime and watered down Blue stuff made me sick

    Also showed up with empty bottle to fill up at the beginning but they did not provide this as they have always done in the past

    All that being said I will be there next year for sure

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    Also feel Lance should have started with first group and dropped on back through same riders

    Him starting 5 minutes before everyone was curious

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    Well awesome is the best way I could describe that 100 mile course! The course was great, the people were great and the event was beyond great! The course marshals and police kept the traffic stopped at all the intersections I came through. They were the best. All the volunteers and Lanceís staff were fantastic. The host facility MCCC was fantastic. Yes there were some spots with bad road conditions but nothing worse than any of my long training rides. That course was not for the novice. I think that was well stated. I know I read it. My train and my conditioning were right on the money for this ride.

    I started in the back of the fast 100 milerís and quickly realized that I need to move up. The first 30 miles were smoking for me. Then I settled in for my ride. I had a missed cue at Carlís Hill Rd and Foxs Rd which added about another 5 miles for me. That was around the 40 mile mark. That point was not marked. I just followed the road which turned to the left. This was at the top of the first part of the hill on Carlís Hill Rd which was a nice little 17% garde according to my Garmin. A SAG vehicle redirected me to turn around a few miles down the road or up the hill which ever you want to look at it. I know there were others that missed this cue too.

    My gearing is a 14 speed 53/39 chain rings and 13-25 rear cassette. Some of those wet climbs were rather interesting. When I had to get out of the saddle to climb, shifting my weight was a key to not spinning out on the wet road or leaves. Any way I had averaged speed of 16.5 mph with a max hr of 192 bpm. Iím lucky Iím not dead. Over 3 hrs of my ride was in hr zone 5 160-178 bpm. I stop three times to fill my water bottles (24oz and a 28oz). I ate a total on the ride: 5 gu packs, 5 oranges wedges, 4 bananas, Ĺ pbj sandwich and about 10 dates. My ride total was 99.17, I finished in 6 hr and I felted great. I am a 45 yr old male at 180lbs and my bike (Kestrel 200sc) is over 17 years old and hasnít cracked yet.

    So my post ride was kissed my wife and drinking some water. I ate another Ĺ peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I chatted with a few folks. Drank some more water. I got a shower which was like getting presser washed. Then I got veggie burger, protein drink and a lot more water. We left at around 4:30 for the 2 hr drive back home, I drove.

    Monday I felted great. I took the dogs for a run. We have 3 German Shepherds. I fix the leaky bath faucet and mowed 2 yards. I did plan to take the day off just because of being away for the weekend.


    I think Grahny passed me on Morris Rd heading for the line. Grahny I got that file you set me. Something was wrong with the upload or down load and it was not useable for me. Thanks any way! I was on a black Kestrel my number was 1326 and I was wearing the new United LiveStrong jersey. So if you remember passing that black Kestrel that was me.

    Quote Originally Posted by grahny View Post
    -Miles 80-95 were even better. We merged at some point with the 70 & 40 mile riders, and I was blowing past them one at a time, trying to give words of encouragement as I went.
    Although I canít remember the merge point. I do remember looking ahead and seeing mountain bikes and thinking man those guys were hammering. Then it dawn on me that they were on a shorter course. I also gave lots of encouragement to those I was passing. Most seemed to be doing fine but some really looked to be suffering.


    Engine sorry for your lost and it must have being exhausting for you to do that ride with your lost. I picked up a yellow scarf; I put all the names of my loved ones and of the ďIn Memory OfĒ from my donators on it. I rode in the entire 100 mile course with it wrapped around my handles bars where I could touch it. I thought about each and every one of them over the course. I drew strength from it.


    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacKid View Post
    Two years ago, a guy named Dave Hickey, who is associated with Roadbikereview, did The Ride for the Roses on a fixie. I came up on him at about mile 50 and we had a pleasant conversation. He didn't seem to be having any problem. I think he finished in a little over 6 hrs.
    I think I gave this guy a huge pull on some flats a few mile before the Landis Store climb at around the 50 mile make. He said thanks for the pull and then answered his cell phone so I left him only to see him pass me on the next hill. Then I think I even started another 17% grade climb right before Landis Store with him. This was around 54 miles and was right before the Landis Store rest stop. Which buy the way was my favorite stop; they were rocking! That was a great hill!!!

    In October Iím doing a ride from Mechanicsburg to State College PA with about 10K in climbs at around about 120 miles. It is going to be a one way with a ride home, it should be a nice one ride. Got to keep doing those hills.

    Well sorry for the babble. I hope you all can understand how I felted about this Challenge. I would do it again next week if I could. Now Iím tired.

    Later.
    James

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    tasr I remember the black kestrel! Was that you I was chatting at the beginning and end of the ride? I think I mentioned something about finishing in under 6hrs, and we went by the rider that hit the deck around a turn. I ran into a few of the same people a couple of times throughout the day but am having a hard time remembering who was who oh wait... was morris road the long road up to the college? I think I remember now.

    Weird about the Garmin file. I was able to upload it no problem and it worked out great, although the LAF had a good deal of signage up and around and people directing. I think I know that turn you missed too. It's probably the one spot that I was very unsure of and had to reference the garmin to make sure I was still on course.
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    WOW, what a great ride, for a great cause! First off...my condolences go out to you, Engine, and to your family for the passing of your father. It must have been both a difficult and redeeming ride for you on Sunday. I hope that your plans for setting up Alronan get to a good start.

    For me, I thought the ride and ride were appropriately named - a "challenge." On the one hand, I agree with most of you, in that I thought it was much too difficult (climbing wise, down hill wise, and road-condition wise) for the average charity cyclist. I'm sure a lot of people came to Philly pumped up on Saturday, got their registration packets, ate their pasta dinners, and fell asleep looking forward to Sunday. And many must have had the thoughts of loved ones in mind too, as they pedaled across that starting line. But, man-oh-man, I bet those hills left a lot of people feeling more defeated and not-strong-enough, than feeling encouraged to livestrong. In my opinion, there were too many people that were left having to walk up the hills, or having to calculate whether not-walking up the hills would mean they might not be able to finish the ride. The course should not have forced the riders/contributors to make that kind of an assessment...they should have felt that they could get through the ride in one piece and either finished strong or simply finish.

    On the other hand, I don't think the ride was entirely impossible. As I said above, it is called the LS Challenge, not the LS EasyRide. I guess the route planners had to weigh: A) making it harder than expected because it is, after all, a ride put on by Lance Armstrong and his foundation, with B) not making it hard enough and having people riding in a Lance Armstrong sponsored ride leave thinking, "man, what a wimpy ride that was." I just got back into more regular riding earlier this year and I considered it to be just the right level of difficulty...the harder hills made me huff and puff, the downhills were awesome, and all those rollers in between were managable. I rode the "not to fast" 100 along with two buddies of mine - Kur and Joon - who both started cycling this year too. (Awesome ride fellas!) One dude switched from mountain biking to road, but the other was a complete noobie who had torn his ACL this past April, had surgery, flew through rehab, and then crammed in a month of training before the ride. All three of us finished, though not in some of y'all sub-6 hour times. Anyway, my point being...it was doable.

    What was missing from the LSC website (which I'll make note of in my feedback to them) was a more accurate description of how difficult the course was. I think people would have been more-OK with the ride if they knew what was to come, even if it is hard. But if that kind of a description would have deterred registration, then another good approach would have been to provide a training program/schedule for those who want to ride. For example, a 10-week plan to train for the LSC. I've seen this type of thing provided in another great charity ride I've done - the Hyannis Port Challenge benefitting Best Buddies International - and thought it allowed novice riders to train enough for a century ride...so long as they followed the training regiment.

    But I'm rambling now. All in all, I thought it was a great ride and I'm glad to have had this opportunity to engage in the Foundation's efforts. Sign me up for next year...me and my granny gear will be ready to roll!

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    Thank you for your condolences. It was a tough ride for me on many levels ... the least of which was the difficulty of the course. I had done a recon the previous Monday, and knew what to expect, and had been training on hilly rides for about a month. I also spent the last thirty years riding in the foothills of the Appalachians, so climbing is something I'm used to. Unfortunatly, I live an hour away from any real climbing now days. I'm 245 lbs., so climbing for me is slow, but I've NEVER found a hill I had to walk up ... including this ride.

    You can check out pics of me "ready for the ride" at:
    http://homepage.mac.com/gabworx/PhotoAlbum2.html

    That rest stop after the Landis Store climb (mile 55) was the best. It was great to hear the bullhorn just after getting to the top of that monster. Someone said that climb had parts at 20% ... I don't have a Garmin, so I can't confirm it. There was another climb of 20% on Carls' Hill. I could not catch the people walking up those climbs, even on my granny gear. I saw 2.7 mph. on my cyclometer. I think I'm lucky I didn't fall over from going too slow.

    I can't wait for next year.
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