What diameter quiill stem does this Miele Tempo use?
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What diameter quiill stem does this Miele Tempo use?
Hi there, I'm going to pick up a Miele Tempo from an older woman who kept it for years in her garage (and apparently it doesn't have a scratch on it) on Sunday:
https://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...one_Pg_110.jpg
I know I'm going to have to do two things: 1. Get a shorter stem and 2. Get a compact handlebar (I don't like the feel of the vintage handlebars drops).
I'm not sure exactly what size quill stem I should get (I know the length just not the diameter that I should be looking at). Will any quill stem fit into the Miele? and would that mean a standard 22.2mm? If so should I be looking at a quill stem with a 26mm clamp or a 25.4 mm clamp?
This compact handlebar from Velo Orange looks decent,
Dajia Cycleworks Shallow Drop Handlebar
And these quill stems look good (though I might try to find a used one)
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems...onethreadstems
Would a combo like that make sense?
Thanks!
https://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...one_Pg_110.jpg
I know I'm going to have to do two things: 1. Get a shorter stem and 2. Get a compact handlebar (I don't like the feel of the vintage handlebars drops).
I'm not sure exactly what size quill stem I should get (I know the length just not the diameter that I should be looking at). Will any quill stem fit into the Miele? and would that mean a standard 22.2mm? If so should I be looking at a quill stem with a 26mm clamp or a 25.4 mm clamp?
This compact handlebar from Velo Orange looks decent,
Dajia Cycleworks Shallow Drop Handlebar
And these quill stems look good (though I might try to find a used one)
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems...onethreadstems
Would a combo like that make sense?
Thanks!
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Any pis of the actual bike? The diameter of the stem is one inch or 22.2 as you noted.
The stems in the link are nice but have a lot of height in them, do you want that? Those technomic stems will place the bars about 10" higher than are now.
The bars look nice but I have never used them.
The stems in the link are nice but have a lot of height in them, do you want that? Those technomic stems will place the bars about 10" higher than are now.
The bars look nice but I have never used them.
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Hi Bianchigirl -
Thanks for your reply!
I didn't realize those stems would increase the height by 10 inches . I ride with a 2.5 inch drop on my road bike, but it would be nice to have this up an inch or two for tooting around the city. I'll be better able to gauge it when I get the bike (how much I'll need to raise it). What stem length would you suggest to increase the rise of the included quill stem by 2 or 3 inches?
The problem with me is that I have long legs for my height, (but a shorter reach) which means I usually need to raise the seat up quite a bit on bikes. This will usually result in a large seat to handlebar drop, and necessitate me flipping / changing stems, adding spacers where appropriate etc. With a vintage stem I can't do all of that, so would like to get a stem that has a little more height.
Here's a picture of the bike for sale:
Miele Tempo - 56 | road | Oakville / Halton Region | Kijiji
While it might not have the pedigree of the Bianchi I was looking at I expect it to be in better condition. I really liked the Bianchi but man those wheels were terrible - and he wouldn't budge on price even after pointing them out. I was toying with the idea of getting it anyways but that would be 275 for the Bianchi, + new wheels, where this seems to be in good condition, and I can get it for 250. I can sink the extra money I would have spent in new wheels into new handlebars / stem / handlebar tape.
That's the plan anyways
Thanks for your reply!
I didn't realize those stems would increase the height by 10 inches . I ride with a 2.5 inch drop on my road bike, but it would be nice to have this up an inch or two for tooting around the city. I'll be better able to gauge it when I get the bike (how much I'll need to raise it). What stem length would you suggest to increase the rise of the included quill stem by 2 or 3 inches?
The problem with me is that I have long legs for my height, (but a shorter reach) which means I usually need to raise the seat up quite a bit on bikes. This will usually result in a large seat to handlebar drop, and necessitate me flipping / changing stems, adding spacers where appropriate etc. With a vintage stem I can't do all of that, so would like to get a stem that has a little more height.
Here's a picture of the bike for sale:
Miele Tempo - 56 | road | Oakville / Halton Region | Kijiji
While it might not have the pedigree of the Bianchi I was looking at I expect it to be in better condition. I really liked the Bianchi but man those wheels were terrible - and he wouldn't budge on price even after pointing them out. I was toying with the idea of getting it anyways but that would be 275 for the Bianchi, + new wheels, where this seems to be in good condition, and I can get it for 250. I can sink the extra money I would have spent in new wheels into new handlebars / stem / handlebar tape.
That's the plan anyways
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Are you sure 56 is the right size for you?
yes those technomics are for riders who really like to sit up. I like the Kalloy Riser stems lower on the page. The best thing is to always wait until you have the bike in hand and then compare it to your best fitting/feeling bike in your stable.
see how these match up with the saddle and bars? Two of them are the same year and frame so it was a bit easy. The middle bike has a riser type stem, the far one is a Salsa S.U.P. stem designed to have a rise to it.
yes those technomics are for riders who really like to sit up. I like the Kalloy Riser stems lower on the page. The best thing is to always wait until you have the bike in hand and then compare it to your best fitting/feeling bike in your stable.
see how these match up with the saddle and bars? Two of them are the same year and frame so it was a bit easy. The middle bike has a riser type stem, the far one is a Salsa S.U.P. stem designed to have a rise to it.
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Unfortunately the Nitto Technomic is about the only stem currently available if you want any extra rise. You can sink it deeper in the head tube to get just a bit of extra rise. You might have to cut the stem if it interferes with the head tube butting or the head tube is too short. I just had to do this for my recent build - old guy and don't want too much drop.
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I'm pretty sure. I seem to be able to do 54 and 56, but both have compromises. '56 requires a shorter stem, while '54 requires a ton of seat rise and a longer stem (but normal extension). I've been fitted and pretty much told what I knew all along, about the long legs short reach - but ended up on a '56 from that particular fitter.
In any case I won't be doing centuries on this Miele so I don't have to completely dial it it - but it would be nice to be comfortable
Nice set of bikes!
There was also a really nice celeste Bianchi I wanted to look at but the gentleman wanted 400 and didn't even respond when I offered 350:
82 Bianchi size 57 frame - for that price I might as well get the Orchid Bianchi (still for sale despite the guy saying 'he had another buyer lined up and wouldn't drop the price any further') and buy newish wheels. I need to fight the temptation to overspend here (which is hard); the idea being to get a cool vintage bike to ride around town and lock up outside without it being a huge hit if it gets stolen despite U-locks.
It would also be fun to do some more serious repair work myself; to that end I'm going to pick myself up a repair stand and try to go beyond basic gear and brake adjustments.
I'll compare frame sizes. I won't run out and purchase anything today until I get the thing home (after all I still have to double check the bike). I notice that on the first Bianchi you've got a stem adapter and a regular stem fit - any particular reason? just curious.
The links to those Nitto stems I posted earlier - (I like the riser stems as well btw), the first set says they allow an extra 2 1/2 inches of rise over traditional stems. That sounds about right - but again as you said I'll know better when I get it home to compare. For the record here's my regular set-up:
In any case I won't be doing centuries on this Miele so I don't have to completely dial it it - but it would be nice to be comfortable
yes those technomics are for riders who really like to sit up. I like the Kalloy Riser stems lower on the page. The best thing is to always wait until you have the bike in hand and then compare it to your best fitting/feeling bike in your stable.
see how these match up with the saddle and bars? Two of them are the same year and frame so it was a bit easy. The middle bike has a riser type stem, the far one is a Salsa S.U.P. stem designed to have a rise to it.
see how these match up with the saddle and bars? Two of them are the same year and frame so it was a bit easy. The middle bike has a riser type stem, the far one is a Salsa S.U.P. stem designed to have a rise to it.
There was also a really nice celeste Bianchi I wanted to look at but the gentleman wanted 400 and didn't even respond when I offered 350:
82 Bianchi size 57 frame - for that price I might as well get the Orchid Bianchi (still for sale despite the guy saying 'he had another buyer lined up and wouldn't drop the price any further') and buy newish wheels. I need to fight the temptation to overspend here (which is hard); the idea being to get a cool vintage bike to ride around town and lock up outside without it being a huge hit if it gets stolen despite U-locks.
It would also be fun to do some more serious repair work myself; to that end I'm going to pick myself up a repair stand and try to go beyond basic gear and brake adjustments.
I'll compare frame sizes. I won't run out and purchase anything today until I get the thing home (after all I still have to double check the bike). I notice that on the first Bianchi you've got a stem adapter and a regular stem fit - any particular reason? just curious.
The links to those Nitto stems I posted earlier - (I like the riser stems as well btw), the first set says they allow an extra 2 1/2 inches of rise over traditional stems. That sounds about right - but again as you said I'll know better when I get it home to compare. For the record here's my regular set-up:
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