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Old 12-22-08, 12:41 PM   #1
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90 Cinelli

Considering this frame-- is it a good deal?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-single-speed...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 12-22-08, 01:35 PM   #2
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I would pass given the price - keep in mind, it's not a Cinelli frame, it's a frame from an unkown builder using Cinelli parts. Maybe someone can ID it from the pics, but as a well-made no-name I'd look elsewhere - it's certainly not a screaming deal.
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Old 12-22-08, 02:29 PM   #3
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Hmmm, I'd guess with the "Flying C" in the crown, it is a Cinelli... or the fork is, at least my 84 Super Corsa is identical. The powdercoat is not original though.
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Hmmm, I'd guess with the "Flying C" in the crown, it is a Cinelli... or the fork is, at least my 84 Super Corsa is identical. The powdercoat is not original though.
Same seatstay treatment as the OP's bike?
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Hmmm, I'd guess with the "Flying C" in the crown, it is a Cinelli... or the fork is, at least my 84 Super Corsa is identical. The powdercoat is not original though.
Definitely not the same as my 1984 SC, which I bought new and know is genuine.
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I'm just talking about the crown, can't see enough otherwise. Here's my 84, ordered brand new, so I know its genuine too! (seat, bartape, freewheel, tires changed over the years) Not sure they sold those crowns for other uses....

PS: does look like a road fork, maybe that's the only Cinelli part!
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I'm just talking about the crown, can't see enough otherwise. Here's my 84, ordered brand new, so I know its genuine too! (seat, bartape, freewheel, tires changed over the years) Not sure they sold those crowns for other uses....

PS: does look like a road fork, maybe that's the only Cinelli part!
Now THAT's a Cinelli, with the classic seatstay cluster - not the one on the OP's bike (which I'm betting is not Cinelli but made with Cinelli bits).
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dbakl, I think that if you examine the fork in the eBay auction, you'll agree that though it is a Cinelli fork, it's not the same as yours, or mine, for that matter.

Love the Anthracite Gray, BTW. A friend had that color, so I ordered the China Blue.
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dbakl, I think that if you examine the fork in the eBay auction, you'll agree that though it is a Cinelli fork, it's not the same as yours, or mine, for that matter.

Love the Anthracite Gray, BTW. A friend had that color, so I ordered the China Blue.
Yeah, the Flying C is raised inside a recessed circle; on my the C and the circle are recessed. But the crown shape looks the same, other than no chrome. I'm not that familar with later Cinellis, but I believe they made some without the classic seat bolt treatment, and no chrome as well. Heck, I saw Cinelli mountain bikes in Japan!
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Yeah, the Flying C is raised inside a recessed circle; on my the C and the circle are recessed. But the crown shape looks the same, other than no chrome. I'm not that familar with later Cinellis, but I believe they made some without the classic seat bolt treatment, and no chrome as well. Heck, I saw Cinelli mountain bikes in Japan!
Maybe - but I'm sure those frame parts were widely available. And the ebay seller himself does not appear to be claiming it is a Cinelli frame, at least by my reading of the auction text.
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As a point regarding the original bike, most true Cinelli track frames I've seen have flat fork crowns.
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Considering this frame-- is it a good deal?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-single-speed...QQcmdZViewItem
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maybe a little hijackery...but, this looks pretty good. what say the experts?
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as a non-expert, I'd say it looks like the real deal, and If that's Mateo selling it it probably is. No 3-holes in the lugs and I *think* I see a single hole in the drop out for an early Campy RD with a return spring (?experts?) It would be nice to see the decals up close and a head badge shot.
Edit: didn't see the wooljersey link: it IS Matteo Brandi and there is no headbadge, anymore....pretty frame anyway.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/NOS-single-speed...QQcmdZViewItem
It sold for $485.00
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