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    I have a chance to pick up a 1977 schwinn ladies breeze for about $30.00, paint is in good shape , deals are clean, just need tires.

    -- Question i buy and flip bikes all the time and have not done anything like this type ( Ladies , Single speed, Yellow ) bikes

    is it work to get it and flip it on ebay. ?

    I have seen some of these sell for $50.00 and others for $200.00+ on ebay. what are my tell tell signs on these.

    1977 yellow schwinn breeze ladies single speed with chrome fenders

    all input welcomed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desertrats97 View Post
    I have a chance to pick up a 1977 schwinn ladies breeze for about $30.00, paint is in good shape , deals are clean, just need tires.

    -- Question i buy and flip bikes all the time and have not done anything like this type ( Ladies , Single speed, Yellow ) bikes

    is it work to get it and flip it on ebay. ?

    I have seen some of these sell for $50.00 and others for $200.00+ on ebay. what are my tell tell signs on these.

    1977 yellow schwinn breeze ladies single speed with chrome fenders

    all input welcomed

    That's not a bike for Ebay.
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    After some research you are correct. its at $60-90$ bike on ebay. No worry my 12yr old daughter loved it and kept it.
    I was cool to see her a 12yr old girl get excited about a bike build 33yrs ago. i guess with all the vintage restores i have done its rubbing on to her. we sold her Walmart bike this weekend and picked out a basket and bell ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
    The only problem is that WRK would have Homeland Security knocking on his door because they want to know why he's buying oxalic acid in 50 gallon drums.
    The good news is the stuff lasts a really long time. I keep a small parts bath going, it will hold a fork, but not a frameset. I put parts into it pretty much every day. I have used that same OA solution for over six months. I need to filter it out, but it is still working great.

    So far, I have been buying ten pounds of powder at a time.

    On frames, I don't have the room to keep a frame bath going.

    On ebay, its best suited for high end bikes and high end components. By the time buyers pay for shipping, there just isn't enough value there on the low end stuff. I do see auctions for middle of the product line Japanese bikes, and some go pretty high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
    oddjob2 and I had that discussion, I can buy vintage road bike down here in Tampa for next to nothing. I don't bother because after my time and expenses there's no profit to made. I told oddjob2 if I bought every bike I could I'd be able to fill a 50 ft. UHaul truck. That would be one hell of a road trip, a 50 ft UHaul jam packed heading to Portland! Figure 300 bikes @ $300 per bike = $90,000 minus expences of $150 per bike plus the truck food and lodging.

    Hmmm....

    Expences:

    Bikes: 300 bikes @ $150 = $45,000
    U Haul truck one way: $300
    3 night hotel/2 rooms: $300
    7 days in hotel in Portland: $350
    Food n stuff X 2 X 7 days: $350
    Miscellaneous costs: $4K

    So maybe I'm in for $50K to run 300 bikes in ride ready condition up to Portland. I guess $40K is a nice profit...now, if I only didn't have such a good job.



    btw you think you could unload 300 bikes at $300/each in 7 days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik View Post



    btw you think you could unload 300 bikes at $300/each in 7 days?
    If I didnt have a job it wouldnt really matter, 3 days, 7 days, 14 days holed up a cheap motel in the outskirts of town...anything will sell if it's priced right.
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    I scrounge and save every little bit of cable I can find as most bikes I come across has at leased a seized rear brake, however at the old Mart of Wal...Walmart if you will, they sell a complete wire kit for under $6. I think I'm done saving old cables, this is just too quick to ignore, and while my time is cheap, the more bikes out the door, the better. $6 seems pretty cheap for all the cables you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desertrats97 View Post
    After some research you are correct. its at $60-90$ bike on ebay. No worry my 12yr old daughter loved it and kept it.
    I was cool to see her a 12yr old girl get excited about a bike build 33yrs ago. i guess with all the vintage restores i have done its rubbing on to her. we sold her Walmart bike this weekend and picked out a basket and bell ring.
    You live in the flats, great area for that bike. If it's a clean one, it should fetch up to $150. Some people love old Cadillacs... I'm included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo231 View Post
    I scrounge and save every little bit of cable I can find as most bikes I come across has at leased a seized rear brake, however at the old Mart of Wal...Walmart if you will, they sell a complete wire kit for under $6. I think I'm done saving old cables, this is just too quick to ignore, and while my time is cheap, the more bikes out the door, the better. $6 seems pretty cheap for all the cables you need.
    These cables are okay, but the housings are absolute trash. Un-lined, and won't work with indexed shift systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatTheSlat View Post
    These cables are okay, but the housings are absolute trash. Un-lined, and won't work with indexed shift systems.
    Just bought this one for 70 bucks almost flipped it for 350, but then I thought it is too kewl and kept it for now lol
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    I have those cables on my old mongoose. nothing but positive to say about them for 3 years.

    they are unlined though, and wont work with index apparently. but it's pretty surprising how good my brake feel is

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    They are pretty big inside, which would mean things would have to get crazy rusty to actually freeze a cable.

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    Bill,
    Two quick questions: 1) DKO style? 2) Where can you get cables and housings in bulk? Internet?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahandley View Post
    Bill,
    Two quick questions: 1) DKO style? 2) Where can you get cables and housings in bulk? Internet?
    Thanks.
    DKO = Dirt Knocker Offer seller. Garage sale flippers who hose the bike down and resell them, no mechanical work, except maybe a tube change.

    Niagaracycle.com sells everything in bulk, cables, housing, brake pads, bearings, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
    DKO = Dirt Knocker Offer seller. Garage sale flippers who hose the bike down and resell them, no mechanical work, except maybe a tube change.

    Niagaracycle.com sells everything in bulk, cables, housing, brake pads, bearings, etc.
    Never heard that before - DKO - Now I know.
    Thanks.

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    Lined brake housings in bulk = Niagara.

    Stainless cables in bulk = ebay (be patient, target $1 per cable shipped or less)

    SIS shifter cable housing in bulk = ebay (be patient) Last housing I bought was $35 for 30 meters, or about 35 cents per foot
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    OK, so one thing that I did not see on this thread. How about replacing chains? Is there a place to find good chains at a good price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daf1009 View Post
    OK, so one thing that I did not see on this thread. How about replacing chains? Is there a place to find good chains at a good price?
    Niagaracycle.com, kmz chains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricortes View Post
    That's zero income from flipping on that bike over a five month period, and if they did sell it as 'French', I suspect they might get a bit of grief when the new owner finds out. They just don't seem to have a long haul mentality.
    Not sure what to say except buyer beware. As a seller the moral code is to sell what you have, but there are lots of iffy sellers, and lots of iffy buyers and they meet up all the time. I see crap fly everyday and just roll my eyes, not much you can or should do, you aren't the classified police.

    I once had a bike for sale for over 6 months. It was less the fact that there were no buyers but more the fact that I was asking a premium, mostly because I was riding it and really didn't want to sell it. Someone eventually picked it up and got a nice bike, but by no means did I lose money holding onto it. A buyer will come, that's part of selling bikes.

    I think part of being a flipper is a balance of loving bikes and selling crap. If you love bikes too much, you won't sell anything, or will restore them beyond financial gain...aka it is an expensive hobby. On the other hand you have people who don't care and don't know, just look at market prices and make sure it looks good and is a bit cheaper then everyone else. The key is to be in the middle, sell well repaired good looking bikes for a fair price and make cash on the side for whatever pleases you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricortes View Post
    If I am a classified police, what does that make you? Forum cop?
    No, because I don't care enough but this is a nice discussion on CL/Kijiji ads. Its just nice that you think the seller could give a crap. I mean, a good intentioned seller would correct the ad and that would be great and a good percentage of folks selling bikes are like that. But I'm sure there are quite a few DKO sellers that probably don't care and no matter how many emails you send them, will do what it takes to sell the bike. Yes, they know it's fraud, yes, you do too, but no number of emails in the world are going to change that.

    Push comes to shove, they roll back to ignorance or throw it back at you as "who are you to question me?". That's my cop comment, as they are selling a bike, you are commenting on it, but you have no power to change anything, fraud or not.

    So, I do understand your frustration but there is no real way to fix it. The seller may actually think they have an XYZ bike. You may have made them question and now they think they have a ZYX bike. Or they deleted your email, because if the person isn't interested in buying the bike, they don't waste their time. That's just my .02 cents having watched lots of stupid ads (mostly cars, not bikes) go by and there is not much you can do to educate the public besides educating yourself.

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    There was a time when "flagging" helped moderate CL and that's what CL is intended to be, a community ad service that regulates itself. Loop holes create a dysfunction and idgots get out of hand. Buyer beware, educate yourself before going on these sites.

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    Hey cl gets pretty ugly mostly because its a free service with no real limits on what one can post. Where I'm at in Denver sketchy DKO guys and somewhat sleazy dealers make up 2/3 the posts or more.

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    Hi all - I'm not a flipper, but I am semi-tired and CL is a fun way for me to pass time. It seems like the deals come and go in waves, sometimes I don't see anything good for weeks, then several juicy deals at the same time, but too far away to go to check out, so you have to make a decision.
    Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I think that a good flipper can be an asset to me. There are guys in my area who are flippers, and one is only a mile away, he gets pretty good stuff sometimes, and his prices are fair. I buy a fair amount of stuff from him, because let's face it, I don't want to spend hours and hours driving all over hell and dealing with flaky CL sellers.
    My other golden rule of CL is: if I see something juicy, I'm gonna go NOW, not tomorrow, or in a few days. Someone above mentioned mixte's, I have a bunch, the most expensive cost me $125, a beautiful Austro-Daimler "Michelle" with all nice parts and a bag in the front, it even had a generic Brooks seat and perfect tires. I also have a Peugeot mixte for 75, a really sweet Univega mixte $75 frame only, but I bought that for my daughter, it is kind of a pink/red color, very girly.
    Here is also a nice Campania frame I recently got for $25.

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    Oh, sorry - I meant to add that when I get an old bike it has probably been sitting for years, so what I do is use a light oil and drip a little into the hubs, BB, steering, and all cables. If you hold the bike at various angles the oil will run into where you want it to go. Most cables, brake calipers, pedals will free up very well, and it costs you nothing, and sometimes using original stuff is preferred.
    If you want to flip, the name of the game is to spend as little as possible, and as little effort as possible. This is not a long-term solution but very helpful to evaluate a possible gem as fast as possible, ride it around, see what you think BEFORE investing time and money. You will be surprised how many things will work great with a drop of oil in the right place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WesternFlyer18 View Post
    Oh, sorry - I meant to add that when I get an old bike it has probably been sitting for years, so what I do is use a light oil and drip a little into the hubs, BB, steering, and all cables. If you hold the bike at various angles the oil will run into where you want it to go. Most cables, brake calipers, pedals will free up very well, and it costs you nothing, and sometimes using original stuff is preferred.
    If you want to flip, the name of the game is to spend as little as possible, and as little effort as possible. This is not a long-term solution but very helpful to evaluate a possible gem as fast as possible, ride it around, see what you think BEFORE investing time and money. You will be surprised how many things will work great with a drop of oil in the right place.
    Different strokes for different folks, but the experience of the high volume restore/recondition artisans here is 99% of bikes built prior to 2000, require a complete bike disassembly, cleaning, polishing, and rebuild, with new consumables. This goes for bikes we keep and for resale bikes.
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