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Old 02-06-10, 11:37 AM   #1
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Cinelli Road Bike - vintage?

Here are some pics of a Cinelli road bike that I acquired long ago. I bought several Italian road bikes from a collector in Atlanta in the 80's. This is the only one left, and it has been in storage for the last twenty years. I would like to know if anyone can date this bike. It's all Campy NR. The BB has "7.154" stamped on it.

BTW, the front wheel was lost or stolen. I would like a replacement wheel, if anyone has one-- NR LF 36 hole 3x laced w Mavic Champion Medalle d'Or-- or anything reasonably close with LF NR hub. PM me.
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Old 02-06-10, 11:50 AM   #2
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WOW that is a very beautiful bike. look on the RD near where the cable comes through the upper poetion. there should be a date and it will be likely be close to the date of the frame.

as for wheel. that exact rims may be hard to find but if you snoop areound on ebay you can find some nice silver NOS mavic rims but they are $$$
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Old 02-06-10, 12:30 PM   #3
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Thanks Bianchigirll! It says "Patent-74" on the top of the RD. That's about what I figured based on what the seller said at the time. Anybody have a wild guess what I would have to pay for this bike today? As I said, when I bought it, it was part of a group of bikes, I don't even remember what I paid now, twenty years later.
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Anybody have a wild guess what I would have to pay for this bike today?.
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[QUOTE=edneff;10369677] Anybody have a wild guess what I would have to pay for this bike today? QUOTE]

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I agree it is a beautiful bike but worth more schekles than I could afford. I think this might cause Robbie a few sleepless nights when he sees it, if he hasn't already and is tryign to get a fourth mortage LOL
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You might try the Classic Rendezvous list. Be sure to follow protocol there, and don't ask for value, especially in your first post. But also resist offers to buy!

http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/list...ssicrendezvous

You'll also get better traffic in the main forum, as long as you don't directly ask for a valuation.

The seller of this Cinelli frame used to be a BF regular, and he posts on the Classic Rendezvous list. He may be able to help:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-EARLY-1960s...item19b997e88e

Is the S/N on the BB 154? If so, maybe it's close in age to the ebay example.
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no that example is built of 531, has no shifter bosses nor the pair of WB bosses (which have to be among the first if this yellow sample is indeed a '74). I can't help except to agree that the CR list may have some real Cinelli experts, who can.
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I believe this bike may have been purchased as a frameset and built up by the buyer. So the RD being a '74 may have less relevance as a date. I found two bikes on the velostuf.com site that closely match the lugwork and decals of my Cinelli, and the bikes are dated 1969 and 1970. About the only difference was the running gear-- not all Campy NR. So I am going to guess that if the velostuf dates are correct, this is a circa 1970 frame... Good discussion, and I appreciate all the help.
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I believe this bike may have been purchased as a frameset and built up by the buyer. So the RD being a '74 may have less relevance as a date. I found two bikes on the velostuf.com site that closely match the lugwork and decals of my Cinelli, and the bikes are dated 1969 and 1970. About the only difference was the running gear-- not all Campy NR. So I am going to guess that if the velostuf dates are correct, this is a circa 1970 frame... Good discussion, and I appreciate all the help.
both the '69 and '70 frames shown on velostuf have clamp-on shifters and no WB bosses...I think your frame is later (or it's been modified, but that's less likely) ALSO: can't believe I missed this before, does yours have the Campy 1010B (shorty) dropouts? Hard to read the one pic that shows these, but again '69 and '70 have the long 1010s. Shorties would have to mean 1978 (or later).

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both the '69 and '70 frames shown on velostuf have clamp-on shifters and no WB bosses...I think your frame is later (or it's been modified, but that's less likely) ALSO: can't believe I missed this before, does yours have the Campy 1010B (shorty) dropouts? Hard to read the one pic that shows these, but again '69 and '70 have the long 1010s. Shorties would have to mean 1978 (or later).
Yes, I think these are the short droputs. The slot is about 1" deep. Although, I would be surprised if this bike was that late a model based on what the seller told me about how long he had owned it. Are you pretty sure about that?

One more thing, if anyone has an orphan front tubular wheel with Campy NR LF front hub, I would be happy to take it off your hands for the right price. The original wheel went missing.
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Yes, unless Cinelli had a direct line to pre-production parts from Campagnolo, the 1010B did not appear in the catalog 17a (generally dated by the copyright of 1975) but does appear first time in the 17a supplement when Super Record was introduced: generally accepted to be at the trade show of winter '77-'78. Which date makes more sense with the WB bosses and shifter bosses, too.
But don't take my word for it, I just repeat what I've read....try the Classic Rendezvous list, I'm sure your serial number can be deciphered by somebody there.
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That's an extremely nice bike. If I'm ever going to own a real Italian road bike (can't quite convince myself the Equipe qualifies), this yellow Cinelli would be it. In 62cm. But definitely yellow.

BTW, I also doubt it's the age OP suggests. Looks like late seventies.
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Well I got a new front wheel for this bicycle from Bikeville in Philly. Good folks there... Looks great, don't it? Anybody want to take a guess what's it's worth?
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Picchio's back. He may be able to help. Fire up the Picchio signal.

EDIT: Or iab or Citoyen du Monde.

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Just noticed your location...god bless if you can ride that in the Highlands, although I do notice the freewheel was replaced at one point with much wider range and chainrings aren't a ridiculously tight half-step arrangement.
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All the evidence says mid-late 70's to me, as noted by a number of folks. Great color. I don't believe the serial numbers of Cinellis are decipherable.
I'm going to go with '76-77 - earlier and I'd expect to see the long dropouts; later and I'd expect to see the newer Cinelli logo (there was logo overlap in '78, but my hunch is then we'd see a decal instead of a metal headbadge).

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I have just been alerted to this thread and the 7 followed by the period generally means 1977 and given that nothing would seem to contradict this, I believe you can be almost certain it is from 1977.
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That's a real head turner.
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