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    bought a Peugeot Triathlon with WHITE parts today some q's.

    Its a white Peugeot Thriathlon.

    Has all kinds of white painted or anodized components, is this normal or a special edition?
    Or did someone go bezerk with the white paint?

    All the LETTERS on the Crankset (Stronglight), the brakes (570 TOP)(Weinmann's)are black paint, the deraileurs are WHITE with GREEN Lettering saying TRIATHLON.

    Ilooked for info here but it eluded me, Also looked at the bottom of the BB or the left rear chainstay, but cant come up with any ID info anywhere.
    Any suggestions???

    Thanx all

    Rob

    here are some pix

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    Need to post some pictures.

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    OK posted some pics as suggested

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    Looks similar to the 1988 UK version Jim has on his website, but decals are slightly different. Note the 1988 UK version did not have white components. Competitors had the white components in the late 1980s (Shimano Sante, Suntour Ole, etc., so it was popular back then on high end bikes). The Weinmann calipers often have date codes on them (open dating: 0684 would be June 1984), not sure about the coding on Stronglight. I usually find date codes on the stem and seat post as well.

    If the Stronglight crankset was originally white, it should polish up really nice (polishing compound). If it is painted on, it should not look as professional, and probably more prone to chips and defects.

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    Thx WRK101

    I kjust found part of the frame number on the BB shell B74????? cant read the rest all filled up with paint, when i clean the frame I will sand that area to uncover complete serial number and then protect with clear coat.

    I guess I am safe to assume that the frame is an 1987 manufacturing date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cook View Post
    Thx WRK101

    I kjust found part of the frame number on the BB shell B74????? cant read the rest all filled up with paint, when i clean the frame I will sand that area to uncover complete serial number and then protect with clear coat.

    I guess I am safe to assume that the frame is an 1987 manufacturing date?

    Rob
    There are several Peugeot experts on the list. One of them will surely wade in.

    You can often get really close to the date by just looking up date codes on components. As I mentioned, the seat post, handlebar stem, and brake calipers often have open dating. Many components can have dates: hubs, levers, derailleurs, crank, bb, and handlebars.

    Good luck!

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    Ok thx,

    Then these questions for the peugeot experts here:

    A) Is this Bike with White painted components RARE or common?
    B) Was there a reason for these white painted components?? like Aniversary Model or????
    C) Can anyone give an idea of the bikes VALUE?

    Also can this derailer be fixed one of the screw adjustments casting broken left side for going to larger sprocket.
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    Thx Guys and gals,

    Rob
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    The serial number indicates an '87 model. White components were trendy in the late 80's, Shimano had their Sante group, Weinmann, Stronglight and Sachs all offered white components as well. White components in like new condition tend to sell for good money, aside from that they're nothing special.

    Your Triathlon looks similar to the fully lugged U.S. PGN10 w/ Reynolds 501 tubing. Value will vary based on condition, location and size. Something like your Traithlon, is fair condition might be worth $200-250 U.S. In excellent condition maybe $300-325.
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    What's with the bottle cage on the underside of the DT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRietz View Post
    What's with the bottle cage on the underside of the DT?
    Thats an 80's feature used by many manufacturers to appeal to the 'triathlon' crowd. A third set of bottle bosses were added to maxmize water carrying ablility to minimize water stops. Miyata added a single boss under their down tubes for CO2 cartidges. Ahhhh....the 80's.
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    Haha.

    Thanks for clearing that up. At first I thought I was imagining things.

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    Thx Jim for the interesting info.

    Rob

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    +1. European model, 1987 or 1988. The white components were an attempt to appeal to the fashion conscious yuppies. Their late 1980s passion for Miami Vice brought us an onslaught of pastel coloured frames and painted components. I recall Bicycling doing an editorial on the fad, entitled "Do You Have That Crank in Lavender?".

    The components are rare but not valuable. The rear derailleur is especially interesting. It looks like it may be one of the last hurrahs from the Simplex-Ofmega merger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
    +1. European model, 1987 or 1988. The white components were an attempt to appeal to the fashion conscious yuppies. Their late 1980s passion for Miami Vice brought us an onslaught of pastel coloured frames and painted components. I recall Bicycling doing an editorial on the fad, entitled "Do You Have That Crank in Lavender?".

    The components are rare but not valuable. The rear derailleur is especially interesting. It looks like it may be one of the last hurrahs from the Simplex-Ofmega merger.
    T-Mar

    Thx for that info, RE: the simplex derailer i can buy a 440 version where it looks like the same center beam with the same placement of the adjustment screws and the control wire attachment, Do you think it would be doable to replace only the broken center beam part by pushing out the 4 pins and replace them back after new part is inserted??

    The reason for the use of a 440 is that I cant find a 630/640 to buy to replace the whole unit.

    Rob

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    This Is the Simplex 440 I was referring to above.

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    Some of the white components have significantly more value than comparable units that are not white. Best example for me is Shimano Sante. Pretty similar in quality to the Shimano 600 of that era, but groups are selling for 5X or more $$. I must admit, I kind of like the white components. I just bought some Suntour Ole bits to add to my white component stash (I have a couple of sets of Sante already).

    Whatever you do, don't toss any of the parts. I think you are on the right track for fixing it. Take a lot of closeup pictures first before taking anything apart, and label everything. I would probably practice with an old cheap derailleur first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cook View Post
    T-Mar

    Thx for that info, RE: the simplex derailer i can buy a 440 version where it looks like the same center beam with the same placement of the adjustment screws and the control wire attachment, Do you think it would be doable to replace only the broken center beam part by pushing out the 4 pins and replace them back after new part is inserted??

    The reason for the use of a 440 is that I cant find a 630/640 to buy to replace the whole unit.

    Rob
    Rob, unless you have a particular reason to keep it Simplex my recommendation would be to use a Shimano derailleur. Any of the 'light action', z-series, 105, 105sc or RX100 will shift real well and are inexpensive.
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    +1. I'd be replacing the whole derailleur rather trying to swap out the parallelogram arms. While the arms look similar, that may not have the same dimensions. After all, the 440 has a vertical parallelogram, while the OEM derailleur has a horizontal parallelogram. It could negatively affect characteristics such as such as freewheel capacity and even shifting performance.

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    Probably not a bad idea guys to replace the whole derailer on the otherhand I cant find a Simplex 630/640 model anywhere let alone a white one .

    And I assume replacing it with a 440 is a NO No.

    Will have to look into the shimano's mr miamijim mentioned .

    Rob

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    The Simplex 440 isn't a no-no. But Jim's suggestion are relatively inexpensive and easy to find and they'll easily outperform the 440.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
    The Simplex 440 isn't a no-no. But Jim's suggestion are relatively inexpensive and easy to find and they'll easily outperform the 440.
    T-Mar
    Thx for the advise, but i been looking all nite looks like in europe there aren not to many 105sc's around, have to check ebay next.

    Not a one available anywhere, if anyone has one laying around i'd like the info and a pic please.
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    Last edited by cook; 02-10-10 at 02:07 PM. Reason: checked ebay
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    Simplex SLJ6600 GT Alluminum rear derailer was used on Some ALL aluminum Peugeots, Cosmic.

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