Add popped up on local classified website:
26" Carlton frame; Reynolds 531 Manganese/Moly tubing; Campag Record changers; Zeuss crankset; Titanium cluster (54:13); 1" alloy rims with Campag Wide Flange hubs & brakes; Suspension seat post; for touring or racing: immaculate, one-of-a-kind, hand-built in 70 or 71.
Serious offers only, please.
Firstly, I made an offer which was low but respectable as I can only assume, based on the ad, that the seller has some knowledge of what they are selling but is not an expert. The bike looks stock so the claim of a Ti cassette (not sure why the big gear ratio is relevant to that) is suspect.
The seller responded that my offer was ridiculous as they could get $2000 parted out, I think in the current market $1000 after fees is optimistic and if you payed yourself for the work involved you could easily take $200-300 of that estimate for time dismantling, photographing, listing and shipping so perhaps $700 is not a bad estimate of the value as it sits. However, I think the size hurts is and on a local listing $500 would be a more appropriate asking price. My offer was less than that, but not insultingly so, plus I was testing the waters to see if they countered so I could sus out what they thought they were going to get. I know I was dealing with an a$$ to begin with since the ad asks for offers so the response only put a reassured grin on my fact. Face it I just want the frame to use as my townie fixed gear... but it's even a tad on the large size..
What say ye? in terms of value? Am I way off?
edit just noticed it claims campagnolo brakes, but I assumed weinmann based on the lever hoods... that could add a little value... also wanted to say... a carlton is a production bicycle, definitely not one of a kind.