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Old 02-17-10, 10:54 PM   #1
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Univega Safari 10

I've been looking for a 52cm I've found two of them and they both happen to be the same price. Which one is a better buy.

This Univega Safari 10





This Peugeot
http://keys.craigslist.org/bik/1600063198.html

They are both 120$..I would probably want to switch to single/fixed so i'm looking for compatibility also.
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The Peugeot. No comparison really. I like Univegas, but that one is at the very bottom of the product line: steel rims and cranks, etc. I would pass on the Univega even if it was the only choice.

Bikes are two different sizes so what size do you need?
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I'm 5'7 so i'm looking for a 50-53cm I'm guessing? Here are some better pictures of the peugeot I think i will be picking it up tomorrow if all goes well.




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This looks like an 1987 P4 Corbier. Bottom of the line in the Peugeot lineup. Steel Rims, Bars and seat post. 27 inch wheels. Hurst derailleurs...

If you put allow rims, bars and seat post and upgrade the components, it will be a good bike (but it will probably take you $150 or so to do that). So at $270, you can do better, IMHO... Plus there is no place to put DT shifters, so you would probably have to go with bar end shifters...

These bikes are very comparable, but I think you can do better.
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I believe the rims are alloy..seller replaced the original steel wheels with campagnolo/wolber 700c clinchers...I will also likely shift to single speed so I won't have that shifters issue you speak of.
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If you got campy/wolber rims, they alone are worth the price
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+1 That Peugeot is fine, and the wheels are a big plus! Going single speed, the low end components shouldn't be an issue. And by 1987, Peugeot no longer had the french threading issues (I think).
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Would I just have to replace the cassette with a freewheel and take off the derailer to switch to single or is there more to it? Thanks for the help guys.
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Would I just have to replace the cassette with a freewheel and take off the derailer to switch to single or is there more to it? Thanks for the help guys.
Well... that bike has a freewheel. Get rid of it. Add a single cog of your liking, spacers and a lockring. Get rid of the crank (it is steel, so you don't want to use that one) and get another crank with a single cog to your linking. Will need a new chain and you should be set. As far as crank options look for something like a 52/42 or 53/39 and take the big ring off (that would be the most economical proposition)
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+1 Pedals and crankset are junk, so I would swap them out. Hopefully the bike does not have a helicomatic rear hub, that makes the change more costly and more difficult. Check that first before going for the deal. Bike originally came with the helicomatic as I recall (not sure). Hopefully the replacement wheels have regular hubs. If it is a regular freewheel hub, then pick up a single speed freewheel (you can find them everywhere), get a replacement crankset as above, and you are on your way.

Derailleurs and shifters are nothing special, but if you have the patience, consider selling them as a set on ebay, or donate to your favorite bike co-op. Someone can put them to use.
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Hopefully the bike does not have a helicomatic rear hub, that makes the change more costly and more difficult.
No. It doesn't. That was higher end... that said, the OP said that the wheels are Wolber on Campy hubs, so he should be set.
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Well... that bike has a freewheel. Get rid of it. Add a single cog of your liking, spacers and a lockring. Get rid of the crank (it is steel, so you don't want to use that one) and get another crank with a single cog to your linking. Will need a new chain and you should be set. As far as crank options look for something like a 52/42 or 53/39 and take the big ring off (that would be the most economical proposition)
I finally purchased the bike but I won't be able to see it for a few weeks.

-For the crank what would you suggest I do to deal with the french compatibility issue?

-I'm also trying to research the handlebar clamp size to get me some bullhorns I've never liked drop handlebars and I think I would want to keep the original drop bars just in case instead of chopping them. Seems like Sheldon says it's either 23.5 or 25.

-Also if I want to switch the saddle does anybody know what would be compatible for that?
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I finally purchased the bike but I won't be able to see it for a few weeks.

-For the crank what would you suggest I do to deal with the french compatibility issue?

-I'm also trying to research the handlebar clamp size to get me some bullhorns I've never liked drop handlebars and I think I would want to keep the original drop bars just in case instead of chopping them. Seems like Sheldon says it's either 23.5 or 25.

-Also if I want to switch the saddle does anybody know what would be compatible for that?
By 1987 all Peugeots had British threaded BBs so you should be fine. As a matter of fact, I don't think that you need to change your BB, just get a different crank if you want.
Once you have the bike, look at the stem to see what size it is. You might want a different stem that would accept a 26 mm bar, because there are not many 25.4mm bullhorns
If you keep the seatpost (or get one in the same diameter; diameter is indicated on the seatpost on the part that is inside the ST), you can use any saddle you like.

Congratulations and good luck!
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I assume that's a steel seat post. If so, take it to your favorite bike shop, or hopefully it will be stamped with a size on it. Then buy a nice aluminum post for less than $15. Well worth the spend IHMO. Seats are really an individual preference, you can spend as little or as much as you want on a seat.
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I'm looking for the size of the handlebar clamp and can't seem to find any markings on the stem anybody know where exactly it is?
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