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    Trek Elance 400D

    So a friend of mine has a dad that owns a Trek Elance 400D who's looking to sell. It's been recently tuned up, and has practically brand new tires on it. The pedals have been replaced with clipless. He's selling for 280, which seems high, but I want you guys' opinions on it. Also, this would be my first road bike, so would it be a nice entry? It's a 21" frame, which should be right around what I need, but I need to try it to be sure. Here are some pics that I've been given:



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    This looks like a 1987 400T from here Reynolds 531 main triangle. Yours has modern aero wheels. Well worth the $280. Very light for a triple. My set up with original wheels is less than 22 lbs and is about the same size as yours.
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    I'd pay that for a that bike in ready to ride condition.
    '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400

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    So it's a great bike? One thing that I'm annoyed about is the clipless pedals, but I guess I'll just suck it up and buy the shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McStuff View Post
    So it's a great bike? One thing that I'm annoyed about is the clipless pedals, but I guess I'll just suck it up and buy the shoes.
    If you are not comfortable with those clipless pedals, I am sure that someone might be willing to trade a pair of appropriate cage pedals for them in the ISO/for trade forum here. Alternatively, you can get a decent new complete set of MKS road platform pedals, cages and straps for $40 or so. Much less than the shoes and you would really need to learn how to used those cleated pedals, esp when you have frequent stops.

    Yes, it's a great bike.
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    I like the idea of a trade. Hopefully I'll be able to check out the bike today and see how it fits.

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    Excuse the double post, but I'll be checking out the bike today. Will it be fine to try it out without the shoes?

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    I guess I disagree with everyone else, that bike would not sell for $280 around here, more like $225. I have sold several similar Treks in the last year, none for that high of a price. Maybe I need to adjust my pricing up.

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    I'd buy it.

    I was lucky to find a clean 1987 400d and payed $170. But this was on new-years day and the seller was motivated. The bike in the picture looks great, the modern wheels are worth $$$.

    I have several bikes including a made-by-Lynskey Titanium road bike. The Trek 400 is one of my favorite rides, I did 51 miles on it today.

    They are great bikes. If you plan to keep this bike, buy it!

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    I tried it out, and I can get it for 250. It's completely different from my mtb. Just everything about it: position, controls, everything. I definitely like the bike. The frame seems to fit well. I had a decent amount of clearance (1, maybe 2 inches) over the top tube. One question about the derailleurs, though. The rear clicks into each gear, but the front doesn't. Is that normal? Other than that, it's in great condition. A couple of paint chips, but otherwise just great. Smooth, good gear shifts, etc. One last question, does the 400D have dual chainrings while the 400T have a triple?
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    Older indexed shifters were only indexed in the rear. The front derailleur works friction. I personally prefer friction on the front. It allows for easy trimming (to avoid chain rub). Yes, only the 400T came with a triple. If you go to the vintage Trek site, you will find plenty of detail on that bike.

    Standover is a small/minor part of overall bike fit. Check google on bike sizing, there are a lot of theories out there. Many consider standover to be a secondary measure at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    I guess I disagree with everyone else, that bike would not sell for $280 around here, more like $225. I have sold several similar Treks in the last year, none for that high of a price. Maybe I need to adjust my pricing up.
    I agree with the $225 in usual circumstances, but check those wheels Those are $350 new and they do not look like they have many miles on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McStuff View Post
    I tried it out, and I can get it for 250. It's completely different from my mtb. Just everything about it: position, controls, everything. I definitely like the bike. The frame seems to fit well. I had a decent amount of clearance (1, maybe 2 inches) over the top tube. One question about the derailleurs, though. The rear clicks into each gear, but the front doesn't. Is that normal? Other than that, it's in great condition. A couple of paint chips, but otherwise just great. Smooth, good gear shifts, etc. One last question, does the 400D have dual chainrings while the 400T have a triple?
    Only the rear derailleur is indexed (i.e. clicks.) The front is friction. All is good

    Yes. The main difference between the 400D and 400T is that the 400T has a triple crankset instead of double on the 400D and different bottom bracket, chain, and derailleurs to support the triple.

    Here is my '87 400T. Same size as yours, but in blue: (those 2 were the only 2 color options for 400D and 400T for '87)

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    How can you tell that it has had the wheels replaced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McStuff View Post
    How can you tell that it has had the wheels replaced?
    The original rims were Matrix, black anodized as seen above. Those are newer aero rims
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    I had a really sweet 1986 400T with a hard to find small frame (18 inch). It did not last long.

    Nice bike.


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    I flipped this minty Trek 560 to a fellow who drove from a very considerable distance to get it for his son.


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    I picked up a copy of of Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance. Another test ride and making sure everything's good and that sucker is mine!

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    I think that bike is a little small for you at 5' 7".

    Also, I believe you'll be much happier with a steel bike than that aluminum bike you posted in the hybrids forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theschwinnman View Post
    I think that bike is a little small for you at 5' 7".

    Also, I believe you'll be much happier with a steel bike than that aluminum bike you posted in the hybrids forum.
    How can I tell if it's too small?

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    Well, that's kind of subjective, I have a bike the same size, and I'm a little taller than you. It fits, but I had to jack up the seatpost, and get a new stem (and fork to use the stem. What an ordeal!). But really, you'd be better off with a slightly larger frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theschwinnman View Post
    Well, that's kind of subjective, I have a bike the same size, and I'm a little taller than you. It fits, but I had to jack up the seatpost, and get a new stem (and fork to use the stem. What an ordeal!). But really, you'd be better off with a slightly larger frame.
    What's your inseam?

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    The owners say that it's the original matrix wheels. How are you guys sure that they're new wheels? They look the same as the old wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McStuff View Post
    The owners say that it's the original matrix wheels. How are you guys sure that they're new wheels? They look the same as the old wheels.
    there seems to be a sticker on the rear rim, which Matrix rims do not have. Unless it is a picture issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EjustE View Post
    there seems to be a sticker on the rear rim, which Matrix rims do not have. Unless it is a picture issue.
    Where do you see the sticker? All I see are stuff on the tires.

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