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Old 04-11-10, 07:44 PM   #1
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Calling all Campy Lovers... Please Help ID These Campy Parts

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I just picked up a vitus 979 covered in Campy and I am having trouble identifying what group all the parts are from. I don't have any experience with campy and I am looking all over the internet, but to my untrained eyes they kind of all look very similar. So I was just wondering if all you campy lovers could help out as I figured I would use the community as opposed to google for more accurate answers. Below are the pics of the parts with date codes I can see and my guess, let me know if I'm right or wrong! Thanks guys and girls

Please excuse my photo taking skills (or lack there of) Thanks!:

Crankset - C-Record 1st Gen? Marked 170 and a 4 in a circle

Rear D - C-Record 1st Gen?

Front D - C-Record 1st Gen?

DT Shifters - C-Record 1st Gen?


Headset - C-Record 1st Gen? - Marked Brev Campagnolo all over


Brake Levers - Super Record 198? ?



Brake Calipers - No idea - Marked with a C in a diamond



As far as the hubs go they say record right on them and have the oil ports, low flange.


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Crankset: Corsa Record first gen (check)
RD: ditto (check)
FD: ditto (check)
shifters: I am clueless
brake levers: Super Record (check)
Brakes: Super Record.
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Thanks for the help E!
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Shifters look like C-Record too. I've got a pair oxidizing in one of my parts bins.
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Haha, thanks for the info homebrew!
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the Shifters look like the C-Rec era shifters that were used on all 4 groups, but the question is are they friction or doppler?
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Hi Bianchigirll,
As far as I can tell they are friction. I'm going to assume that Doppler is some form of early indexing but correct me if I'm wrong. There is definitely no click while shifting. I would also like to add that after looking at the ebay prices for the 1st Generation C-Record parts, I am afraid to ride them. I am considering selling them and going full super record and keeping the left over cash. Is this blasphemy? Should I just ride them and not worry about the "ebay value".

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For less than the price of what that group (parted out) goes for on Ebay, you could likely get a gently used, full high end modern group of your choosing. The Dura Ace 7400 group that came with my Univega Super Strada gave me enough money to buy Ultegra 6600. I much prefer riding with the newer stuff.
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Hi Bianchigirll,
As far as I can tell they are friction. I'm going to assume that Doppler is some form of early indexing but correct me if I'm wrong. There is definitely no click while shifting. I would also like to add that after looking at the ebay prices for the 1st Generation C-Record parts, I am afraid to ride them. I am considering selling them and going full super record and keeping the left over cash. Is this blasphemy? Should I just ride them and not worry about the "ebay value".
Bad logic. Fiancialy speaking, I think its a wash between Super Record and C-Record.
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Part ID's are on the money. As far as swapping/selling - prices are likely going to be close to a wash. Prices for good condition super record have been climbing and you need a fair bit of S.Record to complete out the swap and more chances for prices to go up in bidding wars on ebay. I'd only change out for a single group if that is important to you (of course I'm one to talk about to drop $200 to complete out a Nuovo Record group sans pedals).

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Part ID's are on the money. As far as swapping/selling - prices are likely going to be close to a wash. Prices for good condition super record have been climbing and you need a fair bit of S.Record to complete out the swap and more chances for prices to go up in bidding wars on ebay. I'd only change out for a single group if that is important to you (of course I'm one to talk about to drop $200 to complete out a Nuovo Record group sans pedals).

btw, I know this great little website for ID'ing parts, it's called VeloBase.com.


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Hahaha fair enough. Yes I've pretty much narrowed it down to everything is C-Record minus Brake Levers, Calipers, Seatpost, adn Hubs. I guess the super record stuff is probably mighty expensive you're right. The only reason I thought it may be possible is that a) perfect condition is of no concern to me if I'm just riding it. If it works it works. b) a recent ebay sale of a similar condition 1st gen C-record Rear Derailleur had it go for $300, before shipping. Here and the crankset for $235 HERE

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I can't afford to pay myself for my VeloBase work yet. But if I ever find a way to make a livin off it plus some, I'll keep you in mind.

Wowzer is all I can say about the prices of C-rec stuff. I hadn't been following prices too closely lately as I have pretty much finished collecting photos and information for C-record parts a while back. Makes the price I'm considering buying some Nuovo/Super brakes & levers for seem downright reasonable.
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I've got the same F and R D and shift levers sitting in a box.
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Haha, well it looks like they may be of some value
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Then I guess I will be posting them in the for trade section tomorrow!
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Brakes look like cobaltos minus the "gem".

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Colbalto's and Super Record calipers from the same period used the same arms, the levers if part of the brake set point to Super Record, not Colbalto.
At the time, if one did not want or need the white soft parts and or aero cable routing option, Super Record's were cheaper.

The 1984 crankset will have some interest as it was basically before C Record was readily available.
The front derailleur shown is the first production unit, there was a different one shown in the ensemble shot introducing the group, but I have never seen one in real life.... the production unit looks better.

I have slowly pieced together a Corsa Record group, but just can't pop for the Deltas, too steep a price for my view of them, a fun experiment, but dual pivots look more appealing... I have one colbalto caliper, I forgot how I got that long ago, and the plastic "jewel" is just silly.
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Colbalto's and Super Record calipers from the same period used the same arms, the levers if part of the brake set point to Super Record, not Colbalto.
At the time, if one did not want or need the white soft parts and or aero cable routing option, Super Record's were cheaper.

The 1984 crankset will have some interest as it was basically before C Record was readily available.
The front derailleur shown is the first production unit, there was a different one shown in the ensemble shot introducing the group, but I have never seen one in real life.... the production unit looks better.

I have slowly pieced together a Corsa Record group, but just can't pop for the Deltas, too steep a price for my view of them, a fun experiment, but dual pivots look more appealing... I have one colbalto caliper, I forgot how I got that long ago, and the plastic "jewel" is just silly.
Yes they're definitely super record levers. Thanks for the info on the FD and the Crankset. I haven't been able to find that much detail on my own. I remember reading somewhere about how C-Record existed in 84 and 85 but wasn't mass produced or at least made readily available until 86. Is the design of the 84 crankset significantly different from other 1st generation versions? Thanks for all the info!
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