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Old 05-24-10, 08:21 AM   #1
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Classic Bianchi (presumably 83-86)

Helpful readers,
I have recently acquired an old Bianchi frame with a few components still attached (which have recently been removed), and am having quite the fight trying to identify it.
So far as I know it is an early-mid 80's Bianchi painted "electric" blue with a cassette side "chrome" chainstay. All other identifying decals/head badge had been removed at one point in the bike's history. The only real clues I have to it's age and make are the sparse components that came attached (which are unreliable at best). Among them are Modolo Flash brakes, Shimano 105 Golden arrow rear derailleur, Campy (no model identifiable) front derailleur and lever shifters, and Ambrosio 19 extra rims (which may be elites, I'll have to take a second look when I get home).
To give a slightly better clue as to what I am talking about here is a pic of the Shimano 105 Golden Arrow rear derailleur with the paint color of the frame showing it's head in the upper right of the pic:

Please let me know if any other information is needed (if I can offer anything more, I will)
I can post some pictures of the frame in question later this evening if need be.
Thank you for your help, whoever may take on the burden of tracking this thing down.
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Old 05-24-10, 08:41 AM   #2
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Photos of the frame in question would be helpful. With the smattering of parts, one has to wonder what parts are original and what are replacements. Seeing that the other parts you've got on the frame are of italian makers, I'm now wondering if the Shimano 105 RD is one of the non-original pieces.
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HI welcome to the forums. yes can you post some pics of the frame and parts of it? closeups of the headtube luggs, and forkcrown, seatstay caps.

also what kind of dropouts? do the derailleur cables run umder or over the BB shell? where is the housing stop for the RD cable, top or bottom? from the pic you posted it looks like there is no hanger for the RD?
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Old 05-24-10, 11:38 AM   #4
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HI welcome to the forums. yes can you post some pics of the frame and parts of it? closeups of the headtube luggs, and forkcrown, seatstay caps.
I'll get right on it (once I get home) - (thanks for the awesome directions on what is needed)

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also what kind of dropouts?
From what I recall, semi-horizontal.

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do the derailleur cables run umder or over the BB shell?
Under, with nice little slots for the cables to go.

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where is the housing stop for the RD cable, top or bottom?
Good question. This will be answered ASAP.

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from the pic you posted it looks like there is no hanger for the RD?
I should note that the picture that I posted is not the frame I am referring to (it just had the rear derailleur and correct paint color)

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HI welcome to the forums
Thanks

I will post with details this evening. Thank you for the help.
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Old 05-24-10, 05:17 PM   #5
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The pics needed are (hopefully) attached. And I do realize that this frame needs some help.
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also what kind of dropouts?
They are Semi-horizontal.
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do the derailleur cables run umder or over the BB shell?
They do run under the BB shell (as previously stated)
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where is the housing stop for the RD cable, top or bottom?
Bottom.
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from the pic you posted it looks like there is no hanger for the RD?
The RD hanger is below the dropout.

Thanks for all of your help.
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Is this the frame in question?



I would venture to say that it is not a Bianchi. What makes you think that it is a Bianchi?
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Old 05-24-10, 05:49 PM   #7
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Ouch!! Frontal hit

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Old 05-24-10, 06:42 PM   #8
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I am with "E" here why do you think it is a Bianchi? what is left of the headbadge (if that is the original) looks nothing like a Bianchi one. most lugged Bianchis had some details to them, usuallt a 'B' on the head/down tube lug, and more often than not something on the seatstay caps and fork crown.

I am also with family_belly that frame looks toast
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Agree with family_belly and Bianchigirl on the bent frame. As I mentioned in the current Mercier thread, amazing how many lugged steel frames shown up on this forum with damage from front-end collisions. In this case, the fork is OK, and I wouldn't be surpised if the wheel survived unscathed, too.

It's a shame that someone decided to sand off the headtube decal. Hate to say it, but that looks like the work of a bike thief from some time in the bike's history. Unless someone here recognizes the remnants of the decals, about all that can be said is that it's probably an Italian frame.

In any event, that's some pretty bad frame damage. I wouldn't ride it without getting it aligned by a frame builder, and the frame builder might refuse to do the work for fear of liability. And replacing those two frame tubes and painting the bike would cost quite a bit.
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Old 05-25-10, 04:52 PM   #10
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Thank you for all of the feedback. I've been researching this for a friend of mine and it seems our assumptions that it is a Bianchi as well as the build-ability of it were way off.
I'm sure it was a good bike once upon a time, but I suppose it's time for the frame to go to the velodrome in the sky.
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