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Old 10-17-10, 06:40 PM
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1980's Colnago Mexico, What is it worth, what would you offer for it? NEW PICS UP!!

I am seriously thinking of selling my 1980's Colnago Mexico. It has been stripped of the original color, and been repainted. The fork is still original chrome though, and the chainstay was left chrome as well.

I am just curious if any of you would know what it might be worth, or what you would be willing to pay for it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here are some pics of it. I can take better pics if it will help out, thanks.


















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I sure wish you guys would answer this? I want to know.

To bad it's to small for me.
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it is very beautiful, I can't believe no one put a price on it yet. I am sure it is worth atleast somewhere between $400 - 500. who did the repaint? is that the correct tubing decal or just a stock columbus decal?
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I'm with BG.....it should start at $400 and go from there. Repaint can hurt value but yours appears to be of good quality. Red helps as well as the smaller size. Vintage prices have been all over the map this year so its hard to nail down a better figure. Keep in mind that economy still sucks (Tampa unemployment is around 12%) and the cycling season has come to an end in many parts of the country/world.

If it were my frame I'd install a headset which in turn allows you to install the fork which in turn makes for a much nicer presentation. Unfortunately a proper headset will set you back $50-75.
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Very sweet frame - what size is it? Will we see it on ebay?
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Originally Posted by miamijim
I'm with BG.....it should start at $400 and go from there. Repaint can hurt value but yours appears to be of good quality. ... Vintage prices have been all over the map this year so its hard to nail down a better figure. Keep in mind that economy still sucks (Tampa unemployment is around 12%) and the cycling season has come to an end in many parts of the country/world.

If it were my frame I'd install a headset which in turn allows you to install the fork which in turn makes for a much nicer presentation. Unfortunately a proper headset will set you back $50-75.
I will be a bit of a contrarian. The paint shows thick in my opinion. If it is powdercoat, this will limit the up side potential. If the graphics are clear coated over, that will help. The size may be a help in the value. I agree the headset in place will increase the appeal, add washers or spacer if the stack height is not the same as Campagnolo. I would use a Campagnolo or an appearance alike.
Install the rear axle adjusters, and some waterbottle bolts, basically that advises that they are not clogged with paint.

Pricing is indeed all over the map this year.
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Originally Posted by repechage
I will be a bit of a contrarian. The paint shows thick in my opinion. If it is powdercoat, this will limit the up side potential. If the graphics are clear coated over, that will help. The size may be a help in the value. I agree the headset in place will increase the appeal, add washers or spacer if the stack height is not the same as Campagnolo. I would use a Campagnolo or an appearance alike.
Install the rear axle adjusters, and some waterbottle bolts, basically that advises that they are not clogged with paint.

Pricing is indeed all over the map this year.
+1 on powdercoat/paint thickness.

If I was in the market this would still be a decent choice. I happen to like Supers, and quite a few other Colnagos for that matter.

I think she'd look great built up with 2009 Centaur.

edit. Going to rethink the pricing until I figure out the correct model.

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Originally Posted by repechage
I will be a bit of a contrarian. The paint shows thick in my opinion. If it is powdercoat, this will limit the up side potential.
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+1 on powdercoat/paint thickness.
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I agree.....it does look heavy/thick.
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Originally Posted by repechage
I will be a bit of a contrarian. The paint shows thick in my opinion. If it is powdercoat, this will limit the up side potential. If the graphics are clear coated over, that will help. The size may be a help in the value. I agree the headset in place will increase the appeal, add washers or spacer if the stack height is not the same as Campagnolo. I would use a Campagnolo or an appearance alike.
Install the rear axle adjusters, and some waterbottle bolts, basically that advises that they are not clogged with paint.

Pricing is indeed all over the map this year.
+10 I've been holding back myself. Paint looks really thick = powdercoat. Such a repaint depreciates the value quite a bit to me. But on ebay, who knows? You just need two bidders that want it.
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The Mexico model started in the 7-0's this frame is later. Did the Mexico use crimped top tubes in the 80's?
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Originally Posted by repechage
The Mexico model started in the 7-0's this frame is later. Did the Mexico use crimped top tubes in the 80's?
Come to think of it, I thought the Masters started using the shaped/crimped Gilco tubesets, not the Mexico model.
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Hi all, thanks for the replies. The repaint was done by a friend of mine, it is a bit thick. It was his first time painting a bike frameset. It is paint, not powdercoat. The decals are cleared over. The decals were labeled as Mexico decals when bought, but I have my doubts. I was not at concern at the time, cause I would think I keep the frameset for the longest time, well I am contemplating selling now.

I have people tell me it is a Master model, super model. Had one fellow for sure confirm it is a low to mid 80's Mexico model, as well as a representative from Colnago whom I emailed confirmed the same thing. I wish i could get a definite answer though.

I still might keep it, and build it up with modern components. The size is a 53cm.

If I do for sure decide to sell, I will put it on forums first to see if any of you guys/gals want a nab at it. If not, then I will resort to ebay. But still unsure on a starting price to ask.

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Originally Posted by gomango
Come to think of it, I thought the Masters started using the shaped/crimped Gilco tubesets, not the Mexico model.
The Nuovo Mexico was the first Colnago to use the ribbed/crimped/channeled (choose your term) tubing, which later led to the fully-shaped Gilco Masters. The Nuovo Mexico was introduced in 1983, following Saronni's victory on a crimped-tube Colnago in the 1982 World Championship Road Race. The Esa Mexico, with even more extensively ribbed tuibing, followed. The "Nuovo Mexico" is often referred to as simply "Mexico" in common usage.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
The Nuovo Mexico was the first Colnago to use the ribbed/crimped/channeled (choose your term) tubing, which later led to the fully-shaped Gilco Masters. The Nuovo Mexico was introduced in 1983, following Saronni's victory on a crimped-tube Colnago in the 1982 World Championship Road Race. The Esa Mexico, with even more extensively ribbed tuibing, followed. The "Nuovo Mexico" is often referred to as simply "Mexico" in common usage.
Thank you for stopping by and helping.

I swear, it would be easier if we just had a "Picchio Special" hotline on these ids.

Is there a resource you can recommend to help me fill in the blanks on these Supers, Mexicos, and early Masters Picchio?

I've ridden a fair share of these, but I must admit, I feel like a dunce quite often with ids.

Oh, one more thing. Is this a Mexico pictured above?

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Originally Posted by gomango
Thank you for stopping by and helping.

I swear, it would be easier if we just had a "Picchio Special" hotline on these ids.

Is there a resource you can recommend to help me fill in the blanks on these Supers, Mexicos, and early Masters Picchio?

I've ridden a fair share of these, but I must admit, I feel like a dunce quite often with ids.

Oh, one more thing. Is this a Mexico pictured above?

Cheers,
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I believe the OP's frame is an Nuovo Mexico circa 1983.

Man, I wish there was a good go-to resource for Colnagos of this era, but I'm not aware of one. I've spent way too much of my life in recent years playing Colnago detective to try to figure this stuff out.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I believe the OP's frame is an Nuovo Mexico circa 1983.

Man, I wish there was a good go-to resource for Colnagos of this era, but I'm not aware of one. I've spent way too much of my life in recent years playing Colnago detective to try to figure this stuff out.
Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I believe the OP's frame is an Nuovo Mexico circa 1983.

Man, I wish there was a good go-to resource for Colnagos of this era, but I'm not aware of one. I've spent way too much of my life in recent years playing Colnago detective to try to figure this stuff out.
Thank you for the ID help. I have spent quite some time researching this frameset, and have come up empty handed.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by cyclecrazyjames
Thank you for the ID help. I have spent quite some time researching this frameset, and have come up empty handed.

Thanks,
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You're welcome.
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Originally Posted by gomango
Thank you for stopping by and helping.

I swear, it would be easier if we just had a "Picchio Special" hotline on these ids.
Thanks for the kind words.
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The only bits I can ad is that my Mexico from ~1980 has Campagnolo dropouts and fork ends a chainstay bridge and flat crown fork. It does not have the 'Colnago' stamped chainstays. Relevant detail shots of my Mexico can be found here: https://s495.photobucket.com/albums/r...r2527/Colnago/

As best I can tell my other Colnago was from 1983 or so and had Colnago dropouts and fork ends with a sloping crown fork and a painted stamped 'Colnago' chainstay:

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Originally Posted by miamijim
The only bits I can ad is that my Mexico from ~1980 has Campagnolo dropouts and fork ends a chainstay bridge and flat crown fork. It does not have the 'Colnago' stamped chainstays. Relevant detail shots of my Mexico can be found here: https://s495.photobucket.com/albums/r...r2527/Colnago/

As best I can tell my other Colnago was from 1983 or so and had Colnago dropouts and fork ends with a sloping crown fork and a painted stamped 'Colnago' chainstay:

Cool bike.

I wish my son's Super was still that nice.

Riding her every day to work doesn't help much though.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I believe the OP's frame is an Nuovo Mexico circa 1983.

Man, I wish there was a good go-to resource for Colnagos of this era, but I'm not aware of one. I've spent way too much of my life in recent years playing Colnago detective to try to figure this stuff out.
I think in the middle 80's Colnago was so scattered that a subcontractor would make an error or not get all of the right parts so they would end up making a new model, why waste an otherwise good frame? (kind of teasing here) I have basically given up on charting 'nagos in the 80's. This is the first frame I have seen with only a crimped top tube, not the downtube also.

I would only consider purchasing one from 1970 or 1971. And I am too cheap right now to do that.
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Originally Posted by repechage
This is the first frame I have seen with only a crimped top tube, not the downtube also.

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This frameset has both the Toptube and Downtube crimped.
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Originally Posted by cyclecrazyjames
This frameset has both the Toptube and Downtube crimped.
Maybe it's my old eyes, but this is very hard to discern from the pics.

Lighting or angles may be the issue. Do you have a shot that demonstrates this detail?

Thanks,
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