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Old 11-09-10, 03:55 PM   #1
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Marinoni Squadra: SLX

Hey guys, I thought I might need some pro help for this one.

here's the description:
columbus slx tubing
61cm
chromed fork and rear triangle
1995ish
Clean paint job.

What do you think the frame is worth?

thanks in advance. Here are some pics:








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Old 11-09-10, 04:26 PM   #2
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$250-500. Its a wild card market out there....

Pluses: SLX tubing, and fresh paint
Minuses: repaint, 61cm and not so sought after name
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nice looking bike. what is SLX NEW?
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$250-500. Its a wild card market out there....

Pluses: SLX tubing, and fresh paint
Minuses: repaint, 61cm and not so sought after name
I have to disagree with the last comment. Vintage Marinoni are very highly regarded and sought out by knowledgeable cyclists, particulary in Canada and the northeast USA.

Another plus is the fastback stay configuration. I believe that was custom request. At least it was when I got mine in 1991.

It would be nice to have clearer pics to ascertain the cosmetic condition.
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I have to disagree with the last comment. Vintage Marinoni are very highly regarded and sought out by knowledgeable cyclists, particulary in Canada and the northeast USA.

Another plus is the fastback stay configuration. I believe that was custom request. At least it was when I got mine in 1991.

It would be nice to have clearer pics to ascertain the cosmetic condition.
Thanks for the replies guys!

The paint is original, the previous owner had it custommade, as you say T-Mar.
I'm pretty stoked on the stay design too, There are no welds and the rear is "slimmer"

As for the condition, it's mint except some tiny paint chips on the top tube. My fault... I used to put my other bike nearby and I guess the there was some contact.
I'll try to get some nicer pics though.

Is a 15 year old bike considerer vintage? Will it gain significant value in time?
Basicly I'm asking myself (and you guys) if I should keep it or sell it. I must admit it's a tad big for me (58cm Vs 61cm)
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$250-500. Its a wild card market out there....

Pluses: SLX tubing, and fresh paint
Minuses: repaint, 61cm and not so sought after name
I know what you mean, it's not a Merckx or some high end Italian brand.
But the craftsmanship and the materials are equivalent, if not exactly the same.


I see the same paradox in the generic carbon fiber frames made in Asia.
Two compagnies, same bike and different prices because of the brand.
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nice looking bike. what is SLX NEW?
I wonder if that's a repaint decal.
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I have to disagree with the last comment. Vintage Marinoni are very highly regarded and sought out by knowledgeable cyclists, particulary in Canada and the northeast USA.

Another plus is the fastback stay configuration. I believe that was custom request. At least it was when I got mine in 1991.

It would be nice to have clearer pics to ascertain the cosmetic condition.
Marinoni's were super deals on race-worthy frames, and remain undervalued somewhat on the secondary market - though the number of folks now attuned to their quality have changed that somewhat. I still regret passing on one at my LBS that was $350 and came kitted out with full Dura Ace 8-speed STI. That said, the vast majority are not a match for the best Italian brands, and the comparison is not necessarily a fair one, given the number of frames Marinoni was making compared to, say, De Rosa or Masi. A custom Marinoni would be a different deal, and might more closely approach the quality of a top Italian frame (though perhaps not the very best), but custom Marinoni's are of course much less common than the production models. A custom Marinoni would definitely be a nice score. With Marinoni's, as with much else, there are better and lesser variations on the theme.

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I wonder if that's a repaint decal.
On the topic of SLX New, I have heard so many possibilities.

My Tommasini Sintesi has the original paint, yet has a "SLX New" decal.

A shop in Tuscany two summers ago told me "SLX New" was rebadged/renamed TSX.

PRX they also asserted, was similar to TSX.

PRX was similar to SLX New.

Here's a pic from a flickr post.



This is murky, and second hand hearsay I know.

Makes as much sense as anything else I've heard.
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what is SLX NEW?
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...now-what-it-is
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On the topic of SLX New, I have heard so many possibilities.

My Tommasini Sintesi has the original paint, yet has a "SLX New" decal.

A shop in Tuscany two summers ago told me "SLX New" was rebadged/renamed TSX.

PRX they also asserted, was similar to TSX.

PRX was similar to SLX New.

Here's a pic from a flickr post.
Bottom line is that it's one of those deals that's much more about marketing than anything else.
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Bottom line is that it's one of those deals that's much more about marketing than anything else.
Yes.

Rides like SLX, which I happen to like quite a bit.
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Jim, is your range estimation based on the frame/fork alone or on the bike equiped as pictured?

Thanks,

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$250-500. Its a wild card market out there....

Pluses: SLX tubing, and fresh paint
Minuses: repaint, 61cm and not so sought after name
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Marinoni's were super deals on race-worthy frames, and remain undervalued somewhat on the secondary market - though the number of folks now attuned to their quality have changed that somewhat. I still regret passing on one at my LBS that was $350 and came kitted out with full Dura Ace 8-speed STI. That said, the vast majority are not a match for the best Italian brands, and the comparison is not necessarily a fair one, given the number of frames Marinoni was making compared to, say, De Rosa or Masi. A custom Marinoni would be a different deal, and might more closely approach the quality of a top Italian frame (though perhaps not the very best), but custom Marinoni's are of course much less common than the production models. A custom Marinoni would definitely be a nice score. With Marinoni's, as with much else, there are better and lesser variations on the theme.

I know its an old thread but I noticed a misconception here. Many Marinonis actually ARE custom. In fact, the low price of a built-to-suit frame was and is what made Marinonis so desirable. I believe custom sizing in the 80's was less than $100 over the normal cost. Today its about $200. Most "Special" models are built to size or were otherwise ordered from the factory and thus allowed for some degree of customization. Yes, Marinoni will do extra special work like crimped tubing or wishbone stays, but the built to fit frames are the most common "custom" models. All Marinoni's I've seen (many) have had much more consistent craftsmanship than their Italian counterparts. The exception being higher end Italian models. Comparing a mid range Marinoni to a mid range Pinarello would find the Marnoni to be the superior bike in most respects. ATMO
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