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    Centurion: Dave Scott Ironman Expert Road Bike

    Seems like a pretty nice bike outside of the size/color. Asking for a friend for the estimated value, if it was taller I'd probably just get it for myself




    Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert Tange 1 CroMoly seamless double butted tubing Lugged 20" (51cm) Frame
    Centurion Tange 1 CroMoly seamless double butted tubing Fork
    Shimano 105 Headset
    Nitto Stem
    Nitto B115 390 Handlebars (NEED NEW WRAPPING)
    Shimano SLR brake levers
    Shimano 105 "Light Action SIS" Index Shifters
    Shimano 105 Crankset FC-1050 175 with Shimano's Biopace Computer Designed Drive System
    Shimano 105 Front Derailleur
    Shimano 105 Rear Deraileur
    Shimano 105 SLR front/rear caliper brakes
    Sugino Clampless Shaft Seatpost
    VETTA Padded Saddle Seat
    Shimano 105 PD-1050 VIA JAPAN Triangle Pedals
    WOLBER Super Champion Alpine MADE IN FRANCE 700C Rims with Shimano 105 hubs
    Specialized Turbo/LR 700 X 19c Tires (REAR TIRE NEEDS REPLACING)

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    What's wrong with the color? The Expert is not as desirable as the Master with 600 bits but still a very nice ride for the less tall person. It's a good guess that the front tire is shot as well. 175mm cranks on a 50cm frame is either a replacement or a misprint. It's unlikely a short person would want cranks that long. It would most likely have come with 170mm but I have seen a 48cm with 165's.
    Bar tape is ratty but otherwise it looks clean and the saddle might be pretty nice cosmetically as well. Unless the brake hoods are torn they would clean up and be white again.

    I am not the Ironman expert, (Mr. Tunes) but I have sold a handful of them. If it was all clean, ready to ride with new tires and bar tape I would be asking $275+ in my market. If I was buying in it's present state.. less. Small frame size = premium price.

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    I just figure the market for people who want pink bikes is a bit limited I actually kinda like that combo though. If it was 55-58 I'd be negotiating for it

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    found another one here a little closer to my size (54cm but as a second bike I'm fine with it being a tad smaller).

    Centurion Dave Scott Ironman: It looks to be an 1985 model. 54 cm Tange 1 frame. Shimano 105 components. New bar tape and brake levers

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamfoh View Post
    Seems like a pretty nice bike outside of the size/color. Asking for a friend for the estimated value, if it was taller I'd probably just get it for myself




    Centurion Dave Scott Ironman Expert Tange 1 CroMoly seamless double butted tubing Lugged 20" (51cm) Frame
    Centurion Tange 1 CroMoly seamless double butted tubing Fork
    Shimano 105 Headset
    Nitto Stem
    Nitto B115 390 Handlebars (NEED NEW WRAPPING)
    Shimano SLR brake levers
    Shimano 105 "Light Action SIS" Index Shifters
    Shimano 105 Crankset FC-1050 175 with Shimano's Biopace Computer Designed Drive System
    Shimano 105 Front Derailleur
    Shimano 105 Rear Deraileur
    Shimano 105 SLR front/rear caliper brakes
    Sugino Clampless Shaft Seatpost
    VETTA Padded Saddle Seat
    Shimano 105 PD-1050 VIA JAPAN Triangle Pedals
    WOLBER Super Champion Alpine MADE IN FRANCE 700C Rims with Shimano 105 hubs
    Specialized Turbo/LR 700 X 19c Tires (REAR TIRE NEEDS REPLACING)
    This bike was originally posted for $60 then relisted by the new owner for $250. Crazy

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    I don't see any pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
    I don't see any pics
    oh that original one was grabbed already, was bumping for this one

    Quote Originally Posted by hamfoh View Post
    found another one here a little closer to my size (54cm but as a second bike I'm fine with it being a tad smaller).

    Centurion Dave Scott Ironman: It looks to be an 1985 model. 54 cm Tange 1 frame. Shimano 105 components. New bar tape and brake levers

    3n83k93o15T45W65R0b5g8bdac4b1a62c11ee.jpg3pc3o03le5Q35T35P5b5g4f16c3a67cc9149a.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_bake View Post
    This bike was originally posted for $60 then relisted by the new owner for $250. Crazy
    wow $60 would've been quite nice to get this bike for heh

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    if you are posting bikes that are listed for sale you should post the asking price

    only saying cause youve posted a few bikes and it's easier to say "yes buy" or "no don't buy" if you tell the asking price vs hoping someone will give you an exact amount

    if your original post had said it was an ironman for $60 i would have told you to drop everything and go get the bike this second lol

    ironman expert in good condition is worth 250ish.. there has been one listed for 225 in my area for a month now but the seller includes no info about the bike

    a master maybe 350ish... depends on how much you like the particular paint job and the condition of everything.

    i recently completed my ironman build and i have to say it's the nicest bike ive ever owned.. If i had the money i would pay $400+ for a mint ironman with one of the more outrageous paint jobs
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    oh when I posted it the asking price was $250, I was on the second go around it would seem. good idea though

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    yeah, at 250 it is still a fair price assuming it's all original and doesn't need any work. not a steal but fair. the guy who bought it for 60 and is reselling it for 250 should at least replace the bartape and tires..

    the frames on the expert and master are the same, just not quite as nice components on the expert, and different paint jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamfoh View Post
    wow $60 would've been quite nice to get this bike for heh
    I tried. I am in Denver, the bike was in the Houston metro area but I have in-laws there so I call my father in-law and he says he will go get it for me then he calls back an hour later and tells me he can't. All this after correspondance with the first seller. Do you know how hard it was to call the seller and tell him never mind? The seller was holding it for me until my father in-law got there. Ugh, Dang in-laws. I'll remember this at Christmas time.

    The next day my app pulls the same bike but relisted for $250

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    I would've been tempted to tip him off about the value of the bike if I couldn't pick it up myself and he had agreed to hold it for me since most other people on CL around here are jerks and sell the item whenever they want, even if you've agreed upon a date/time/location).

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    ^ that can lead to funny things happening like the seller trying to get more than the bike is worth and then not being able to sell it at all
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    speaking of such a thing

    I asked for new pictures of the last one I posted, he sent me them... along with his new price ($275). Obviously he puts a premium on a close-up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik View Post
    ^ that can lead to funny things happening like the seller trying to get more than the bike is worth and then not being able to sell it at all
    +1 and can spoil a decent deal for potential buyers. I found a bike 2 weeks ago in my size and undervalued at $100. I offered a reasonable price at $200 and was set to pick it up. Someone decided that since they couldn't have it at $100 they would tell the seller the "real value". It now lingers on CL at $500.

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    I feel like someone did that with this guy and immediately want to eat my words. how does a bike go up $75 overnight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamfoh View Post
    I feel like someone did that with this guy and immediately want to eat my words. how does a bike go up $75 overnight?
    That's a bummer. I bet he had lots of calls on it and decided it must be priced too low or someone clued him in. Still, for 275 I'd go look at it and perhaps bargain it down. It looks nice.

    BTW, I lived in Seabrook/Kemah in the early 90's

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamfoh View Post
    speaking of such a thing

    I asked for new pictures of the last one I posted, he sent me them... along with his new price ($275). Obviously he puts a premium on a close-up!
    3nb3kb3o45O65Q35W5b5h5ab34b88e7c518b2.jpg3pa3of3la5O45Q35R6b5h66842a0938de1faa.jpg3n63pa3l65Y55Q65P0b5h852d553ebaa21cd5.jpg
    are those the full size images? lol

    that rear derailleur looks like it says Shimano 600 which would be an upgrade.. if it's all shimano 600 it would def be sellable for 275.
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    yes they're full size When I asked for new pictures he took some... then put them on the CL ad instead of emailing them to me, so they got tiny again

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    this forum is always awesome

    just wanted to thank you guys for discussing auctions and these oldschool bikes! i was searching through posts looking for info on my old ironman and found this conversation. do you guys know which year/model had suntour GPX components? or was that just one of the optional packages? I'm thinking it's a 1987. but now im not so sure!
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    what are the colors and what is the serial #?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik View Post
    what are the colors and what is the serial #?

    hi! it's a white to gray smokey fade thing. serial: N9E6116

    thanks-
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    it's an 1989 expert.. GPX was the standard gruppo on the 89. "blue smoke" is what the paint is called around here usually

    the # after the N in the serial number tells you what year it was manufactured.. usually that is the model year too but not always
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    thank you, i appreciate it!

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