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Old 10-14-11, 03:19 PM   #1
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1984 Fuji Professional Super Record

Hi, I bought this fixed gear bike off a kid for about 200 bucks and after i did some research I found out that I cam across probably the rarest fuji frame ever made. Unfortunately it was painted over and the only original parts are the bottom bracket, stem, cranks, headset, and seat post. Fortunately I can buy the Super Record Campy set online. How much is this frame worth? I can barely find ANY information about this bike.
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Hi, can you post photos?
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Old 10-14-11, 03:48 PM   #3
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Heres the BB with Serial
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Ow, my eyes!

I'll let some fuji experts tell you what they think.
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I'm begging to realize now that this bike isnt the sr
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I'm unfortunately limited to dial-up at the moment, so I cannot see the photos, but I would list myself as one of the few who know a fair amount about them. (I have one.) What are the dropouts on your frameset? Is anything written on the fork crown?

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Dial up still exists? Ouch. Haha.

Also, shame on the idiot that painted that bike. I hate seeing "hey guys, just got done stripping and painting my new fixie" more than anything else.
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The fork says fuji on it real small and curved. the serial number says 78 in it so im convinced that this isnt an 84 super record. And big shame on whoever decided to strip it. Oh well. I think its a Fuji Professional. There are no brake cable holders on the frame, meaning that there were clamps that held down the cables. The Super record has three cable holders on the top tube. I got too excited :/
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Looks like a 1979 model year Professional, still pretty awesome.
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If i repaint it its original color and try to find decals, and put all its original parts back on it, how much do you think it would be worth? I'm in love with vintage road bikes and I would love to have this bike in my collection. But if its not worth it I can leave it as its hipster form.
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Old 10-15-11, 12:15 AM   #11
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I also have this (so I think) 1984 Schwinn Tempo in great condition, I was wondering how much this bike is worth too. It has all its original parts, the decals are starting to peel off but I'm sure I can replace those if the bike is worth anything.
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The Tempo is very nice, although it appears to need quite a tuneup judging by the slack chain. All cleaned up I'd say you could get maybe $200 for it. More if you're in a good market.

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There are no brake cable holders on the frame, meaning that there were clamps that held down the cables. The Super record has three cable holders on the top tube.
Some people get really stupid when they make their conversions and file those off before they paint the frame. It's possible yours once had the braze-ons.
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Just to keep things simple:

The money you put into the Fuji to make it original again will far exceed how much you'll get by selling it later. Not worth it.
The Schwinn is an okay bike. Nothing special. ~$230 if clean and if you're in a good market. ~$150 or lower for not so great markets.
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+1 As a collectors bike, the Fuji is basically ruined. Cost to restore will exceed value when you are done, unless you have a line on a professional paint job for super cheap.

Tempo is a project right now, maybe $100, to $125. In spotless, ready to ride condition, maybe $225. Later year Tempos had nicer parts.
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I'm unfortunately limited to dial-up at the moment, so I cannot see the photos, but I would list myself as one of the few who know a fair amount about them. (I have one.) What are the dropouts on your frameset? Is anything written on the fork crown?

beech332 at hotmail, if you want to email me some smaller pictures to compare.
you should be happy you can't see this bike

I am with the rest if that was a Super Record it is ruined. I am certain the person who painted had no clue nor did he really care about the quality or any value the frame had. I am not sure just how rare they are but a few years ago I listed one here in the for sale section sans wheels and original bar/stem. I was aghast at the amount of responses I got wanting to buy it. someone here has it now and did a fabulous job of making her a thing of beauty. here is my version of a Pro Super Record. I tried to post a pic of how it looks now but the file is too big
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So, the tempo is actually not much of a project at all. The bike is in perfect condition all tuned up, brand new brake pads, shifts like charm, its so solid. The only downside is that the decals are pealing. The chain has slack because its not on any of the chainrings when I took that picture. If I am capable of doing a professional paint job on a bike (knowing I'm not trying to sell any of these) I wouldn't mind painting it and creating the original Fuji for myself. AND ALSO ALSO, I can tell the fuji never had cable holders that were filed down, Top tube was clean to begin with.

What do you guys think of the tempo tho. I think its an amazing bike for a schwinn. I cant believe how solid it feels.
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I found the shcwinn on the side of the road with a free sign on it. Score.....
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I'd retore it, it's worth the repaint (if done correctly) and new decals. JR at Velocals made the decals for Khatful's '75 Pro and he's in the process of restoring it.

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Fui Professionals are rare as hen's teeth, it's worth the time and effort, again, if done right.

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At least the "fixie" guy did not hack off the braze-ons. That is probably why he got rid of it, no street cred for that crowd.

Anyway, I would tun this into a DIY project, the bike should be fun to ride, do some web referencing and take a stab at it, you might be able to sell the parts on it that will not be used in a recreation to knock your cost basis down a chunk.
Chemically strip this, "aircraft stripper" and be safe doing it, I suspect that the finish is powdercoat, small chance the chrome is intact underneath.
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Looks like a 1979 model year Professional, still pretty awesome.
I am not sure about that, the black beauty's lugs are "nervex pro style" the cat image shows a simpler lug, but specifications are subject to change w/o notice...
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Does anyone know the original group set for this Fuji Pro, It currently has a campy strada crank on it, campy seat post, unknown stem, and a suntour headset. I know I can paint this bike well but i dont know how much the group set is or what was on it. Let me know and I'm definitely going to pursue restoring this thing.
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The original drivetrain would have been Superbe, if it was released in '78 the cranks would have been Sugino Super Mighty, if a '79 then the cranks would have been Superbe also.

The lugs say it's a '78. the fork crown says a '79. Not uncommon at all for that to happen I'm sure.

You said the stem is original but I'm not sure of that. It would have been a Nitto Pearl G or a Crystem, depending on the year. The photo doesn't appear to be either. If it turned out to be a short Crystem, well, you hit the jackpot.

Looking over the photographs, I'm not bothered too much with the paint or PC job other than the fork crown chrome is covered up. It's more how it's build up that disturbs me. How about leaving the finish as is, trying to recover the fork crown with some careful stripping, buy some "Professional" decals from JR @ Velocals and then build it up with Superbe?

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Hey, thanks for the advice. I do have paint stripper that will take the paint off and leave the chrome untouched - it has not been sanded, just painted over. and stripped a bunch of times. I can strip the whole bike again and mask off the chrome on the crowns and then repaint the bike a metallic silver with a shiny gloss over it to give it a fresh original bike look. What do you guys think? I've painted about 6 bikes in the past 3 months and every time I do it I learn something new and improve my skill. I'm pretty confident in repainting the fuji myself. I know it takes patience and hard work but I would be so proud if I restored it.

My main concern is being able to find all the pieces that were originally on this bike.

Stem may not be stock ( i think your right scottyder )
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My main concern is being able to find all the pieces that were originally on this bike.
At least you'll know who your competition will be on eBay ..... Me! I have my hands full this winter ..



More photos on my blog:

http://vintagefuji.posterous.com/thr...981-a-dream-pr

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Scott! This is your blog? I've been reading and following this for a while now, ever since I got into vintage bikes actually. Well maybe if you find a plentiful source of parts for this bike let me know? I don't want to interfere with your professional work if there are very very few parts floating around out there for this bike.

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