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    Bianchi help please

    Hi,

    I have found my self the owner of a slightly sorry looking Bianchi. Before I make any decisions about quite what to do with it, I'd like to know what it is. Any help much appreciated.



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    Hi Greg welcome to the forum. That is a sorry looking Bianchi. I'll try and help you but I need a little help.

    What components are on the bike? Can you take some good pics of the dropouts and the luggs? Are there any embellishments on the bike? Something like Bianchi on the fork or seat stays or maybe just a B somewhere?

    Where is the bike located? US? Europe? I will say I am somewhat dubious about this bikes pedigree.
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    I will get some more pictures tomorrow. The bike is in Europe, uk.

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    That bike has a lot of rust, if it's that bad on the outside I would hate to see the inside especially the bottom bracket shell.

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    +1

    Need some better photos of the driveside, lugs, tubing decals, components to make any kind of identification.

    Hard to say without seeing the bike in person what parts are salvageable, and whether or not the frame can be saved. Good first step would be to see if the seatpost and stem are free or frozen.
    Why "derailer" is the correct way to spell the gear-change mechanism: sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html

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    I paid $40 for a very similar Bianchi in that shape, and I paid too much. Really depends what the drive components look like. Make sure seat post and stem are not stuck.

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    Hi guys, appreciate the comments so far. I didn't actually pay anything at all for this so I'm not too worried about it either way. I would say that, with the bike in front of me, the rust doesn't seem particularly deep. I was quite surprised at how easily it all came apart, absolutely no trouble with the seat post at all, I've included a picture of it after it came out of the bike to give you some idea.

    I also spotted the serial number which is 519855 - I don't know if that is useful at all to be honest. Here are some more pictures anyway.

















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    Again, thanks for any help.

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    French Simplex on a Bianchi, that's a first.

    No idea what model it is, but unless you have the tools/experience/parts to put this rebuild this thing it will be a money pit and you're better off selling it as-is. Lots of rusted/broken parts that will need replacing.
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    Spent an hour sorting the brakes, which had furred up some and were stiff. Now working again. Front and rear derailleur are free but need a bit of lubing up. Hopefully pick up a chain tomorrow, and have a look out for some tubes and tyres and hopefully it will be a goer.

    I would still like to know what model it is though.

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    This looks a little bit low quality for a Bianchi, doesn't it? Maybe something else painted to look like a Bianchi?
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    It is impossible for me to tell what model it is since the UK bikes are different from ours. I do agree that if it is a Bianchi it is a very low end model. I too think the Simplex is odd but perhaps not for a UK/European market bike.

    Seeing as it has the 'made in Italia' decal and the other Bianchi decal on the DT I would have to assume it is a Bianchi atleast. I is likely something like our early '80s Special.





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    Thanks, I may go and speak to the people who threw it out and see if they can tell me something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregs656 View Post
    Thanks, I may go and speak to the people who threw it out and see if they can tell me something.
    Do they know you have it? If you come around asking questions they may want it back.
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    I pulled it out of their skip with a load of old speakers and garden waste piled on top, but I did think it might be a bit soon to risk them asking for it back. On the other hand once something is in a skip it's fair game. I thought maybe when (or if) I get it going I might take it over there, in my experience people appreciate things like that.

    Also, I found bianchi stamped onto both dropouts, although you can barely read it.



    Which makes me the proud owner of what I suspect to be the rattiest Bianchi on the forum haha

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    <---------First time has ever seen stamped dropouts with integrated D hanger. Those are Mafac levers. Are the brakes Mafac Racers?

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    The brakes are universal. I haven't done much with the levers but I haven't noticed any markings.

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    Hi folks, I thought some of you may be interested to hear I figured out what the model is. It's a sprint 28c. I also have a picture of how the bike is sitting a week on - bit of a difference I think:



    Got a couple more bits coming hopefully this week, replacement suntour derailleurs - although it turns out that the simplex gear is right for the model, it's pretty shot to pieces and needs to go. Still need a few bits and pieces but it's starting to look like a bit less of a wreck at least.

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    Yeah, looks a little better now. Have you, or are you going to repack all the bearings? (hubs, bottom bracket, and headset.) Certainly the old grease is long gone by now.
    Why "derailer" is the correct way to spell the gear-change mechanism: sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html

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    It looks real good compared to last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastJake View Post
    Yeah, looks a little better now. Have you, or are you going to repack all the bearings? (hubs, bottom bracket, and headset.) Certainly the old grease is long gone by now.
    I have done the headset and hubs. I am unsure exactly what it is I need to do the bottom bracket. I believe I will need a locknut removal tool of the right size and that should be enough (along with the 'normal' tools) but I don't know which size I need.

    I'm pleased with the progress, it's not a stunning full blown restoration but it's honest.

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    I dream of a trashed frame like this , build it up weird and comfy and never look back.

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    You'll need a bicycle specific crank puller to get the cranks off, and then a lockring tool (or hammer and screwdriver if you are cheap...) to get the the bottom bracket lockring off. Then it's just a normal repack like a hub or headset. Any bike shop should have these tools in the $10-20 range.

    Quote Originally Posted by sauze View Post
    I dream of a trashed frame like this , build it up weird and comfy and never look back.
    I do this all the time. That's the fun of using an old trashed bike. No one cares what you do with it! There are lots of neglected bikes out there.
    Why "derailer" is the correct way to spell the gear-change mechanism: sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html

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    I may see if the shop up the road will whip it off for me, might be a good compromise and shouldn't cost much

    The frame is ugly but it's sound, at this moment in time I am just going to keep cleaning it up as best I can. Replacement pedals are pretty high on the list of wants, along with bar tape and a saddle. The seat post has cleaned up some and will do for now.

    The spoke reflectors have gone now also, I kept forgetting about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
    That bike has a lot of rust, if it's that bad on the outside I would hate to see the inside especially the bottom bracket shell.


    BB bearings repacked.

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    That doesn't look bad at all! Many times the paint can be falling off while the inside is perfectly fine, or vise-versa... I think you got lucky.
    Why "derailer" is the correct way to spell the gear-change mechanism: sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html

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