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Old 09-19-12, 08:31 AM   #1
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Raleigh Road Bike

Hi again to the forum.

I am going to see this bike in person tomorrow and I wanted to round up some tips about what to ask and what to look for. I don't mind if I buy to a bike that is not completely ready to ride, and I expect to do a tune up. I am looking forward to making some changes and adding some parts to change the style of the bike to my taste.

I like mixte/step over frames and this seems like a decent deal having looked through ads for a little while. Normally in my area, for this type of frame people like to overcharge on CL because they are growing in popularity. Anyway, I know to check if the fork is bent, and if the stem is inline with the fork, but beyond that if anyone has some good experience or information on this style of bike I would really appreciate it.

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This is the ad:
*****
Tour De France

T.I. RALEIGH Limted
Made in England
20-30 High Tensile
ANCEDS Tubing
1977 Tour De France 1978

The bike has a 12 inch frame, and 28 inch tires.

If a person would like he/she can test out the bike beforehand. If a person would like more information about the bike, please contact me - information is at the bottom of the ad. The bike would be great for these last days of summer and upcoming fall or for next spring.

The best way to contact me is through e-mail.

Also, if a person would like I could meet him/her at the Rockville metro station (red line), MARLO Furniture store (355/Rockville Pike), or any place near the Rockville area.

Note: I will not ship this item anywhere, and there are no exceptions. I only accept cash. Please serious buyers only.
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Old 09-19-12, 09:19 AM   #2
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I'd take it for a 10 minute ride and go through all of the gears and do some hard braking to be sure everything works. The sidewalls of the tires should be checked out too, make sure they are in decent shape and that there are no gouges in them or any pieces of the tire becoming unwrapped.

Dunno what the asking price is but here in Toronto, it would sell pretty quickly at $120 or so.

I think it would look great with some chrome fenders, good luck.
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If the Raleigh Record(?) mixte were in ready to ride condition, it could fetch $225. But my guess this bike is not in such condition. The tires are ancient in appearance. That probably also means that the wheel bearings and bottom bracket bearings have not been serviced since the bike was built, 30 year old grease! The rack is askew. Probably the cables and brake shoes are original too. If any part of that bike were updated, I'm sure the seller would highlight that. In that condition, ready for overhaul, the most I'd pay is about $90, about 1/2 the asking price of $175.
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Old 09-19-12, 01:14 PM   #4
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I think that would sit in my market at anything over $150 - and that's assuming ready to ride. I would consider $150 top of the market for that as a ride away bike. For what you're looking at...which is a project on an entry level bike...I'd want to come in under $100. Keep in mind, we're coming out of season.

That being said, if you need a bike, I wouldn't worry about overpaying on something that is, relatively, cheap. It really depends on your needs. As a "I need this bike", I'd pay what it took, within reason. As a project for someone who already has a bike, I'd be offering $75 or less.
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Thanks everyone.

What about this Raleigh relative to:
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...282082829.html (Peugeot)

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...277057196.html (Kensington)

I am not in a desperate position for a bike - I currently use a sturdy Trek 7200 multitrack that gets me from my house to the train station. But, I have been craving a nice bike to finally make my own for a while. In the DC/Baltimore area I feel like the prices for mixtes and vintage bikes are inflated because in the city they are so popular for show so it can be a longer wait to find the types of bikes I would like at a fair price. Patience is hard!

Anyway, compared to the Raleigh - how do you all think these two other ads stack up? Thanks again.
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The Peugeot is probably fairly priced. I've bought many between $60-$90.

I have no knowledge of Kensington, but that one piece crank says it is a low end bike.
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Get the peugeot, it looks to be in good shape and the price is nice too. Again, silver/chrome fenders will really make that bike special.
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Hi everyone! The Peugeot was snatched up too quickly.

I ended up getting the Raleigh, which is a perfect fit to my size. However, the seat post is stuck! I have been twisting it back and forth to pull it out, which seems to be working, but is also definitely stripping the seat post.

Any tips? Thanks.
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Tip, check Sheldon Brown site, or google the forum, as this topic has been covered in depth many, many times.

If it turns, it WILL come out.

First two items I check on any bike I buy, is to make sure the seat post and stem are not stuck. While I will buy a bike with either or even both items stuck, I will only buy at a hefty discount. I typically show the owner/seller the problem, tell them unless they can get it loose, I can only offer xx. Sometimes getting it out means cutting it out, which is additional work, and of course destroys the part. But it saves the frame.

A reputable seller, once they are aware of a valid, serious, defect, will be open to adjusting the price. Other sellers will not, but I am not interested in buying from someone like that anyway.
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Hi everyone! The Peugeot was snatched up too quickly.

I ended up getting the Raleigh, which is a perfect fit to my size. However, the seat post is stuck! I have been twisting it back and forth to pull it out, which seems to be working, but is also definitely stripping the seat post.

Any tips? Thanks.
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So apparently, the seat post that had been jammed into the frame was much larger than appriopriate. The Raleigh Grand Prix frame I have is supposed to take a 25.2 mm seat post (based on the drop measuring tool at the bike co-op I visited), and the post jammed into it was at least 25.6 mm.

The frame opening for the seat post doesn't seem to have been damaged, but the seat post I twisted out of their looks reminiscent of a birch tree it's stripped so badly. The bike co-op I visit did not have a seat post in my size, but I ordered one on ebay for about $25. Hopefully that takes care of it.

Next, I will re-run new brake cables since the exposed cables look to be fairly gross. The bike has these center pull brakes which are awesome.
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