Is this PX-10 worth it?
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Is this PX-10 worth it?
I saw this frameset and was wondering if you guys can confirm a). if it is in fact a PX-10 and b). if it is worth it at this price point. I'm not the most knowledgeable guy when it comes to peugeots but considering the condition and pedigree of the bike I though i should run it buy you guys.
https://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ465997308
https://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ465997308
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Is this PX-10 worth it?
So many nice frames available for a lot less and you don't have all the quirky french sized parts to deal with. Heck $350 will get you a whole bike! Figure on another $400 easy to build it up. Kinda pricey for a PX10.
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You'll have to decide if this frame has asking-price value to you, but sounds like a realistic number.
Since frame geometry has a large effect on effective frame sizing, and on steering characteristics, I would first really need to know if this frame's angles are around 72 degrees (head and seattube angles) or are around 76 degrees. This is because Peugeot used both geometries with Nervex-lugged PX10 frames, and that is a huge difference.
I don't believe this frame is from 1975, and in any case this frame's toptube braze-ons have all been added on prior to repainting.
Pre-1973 will almost always have the traditional 72-degree geometry for this frame size. The fork rake, by appearance, leads me to believe this is what we have here.
Peugeot returned to using Nervex Pro lugs (after a very brief run of using plainer lugs) some time during 1973 or so, but this time they used the radical new frame geometry with angles more commonly found on a track bike. These frames were especially well-suited to aggressive climbing efforts, where a more foreward-situated rider might hop onto and off of the saddle at regular intervals, as the effort in doing so is greatly reduced with a properly-sized frame with such steep angles (particularly the seat tube angle).
So, first know your frame-sizing requirements, and if this frame has the geometry I think it has, I suggest selecting a seemingly large-fitting frame size. But I don't know what your intentions are in terms of the ownership experience and so can't make any kind of a go/no-go recommendation.
BTW, I ride and enjoy Peugeot's steel bikes from this era, but am blessed with the needed supply of parts and the knowledge to exploit a project possibility such as this one.
Since frame geometry has a large effect on effective frame sizing, and on steering characteristics, I would first really need to know if this frame's angles are around 72 degrees (head and seattube angles) or are around 76 degrees. This is because Peugeot used both geometries with Nervex-lugged PX10 frames, and that is a huge difference.
I don't believe this frame is from 1975, and in any case this frame's toptube braze-ons have all been added on prior to repainting.
Pre-1973 will almost always have the traditional 72-degree geometry for this frame size. The fork rake, by appearance, leads me to believe this is what we have here.
Peugeot returned to using Nervex Pro lugs (after a very brief run of using plainer lugs) some time during 1973 or so, but this time they used the radical new frame geometry with angles more commonly found on a track bike. These frames were especially well-suited to aggressive climbing efforts, where a more foreward-situated rider might hop onto and off of the saddle at regular intervals, as the effort in doing so is greatly reduced with a properly-sized frame with such steep angles (particularly the seat tube angle).
So, first know your frame-sizing requirements, and if this frame has the geometry I think it has, I suggest selecting a seemingly large-fitting frame size. But I don't know what your intentions are in terms of the ownership experience and so can't make any kind of a go/no-go recommendation.
BTW, I ride and enjoy Peugeot's steel bikes from this era, but am blessed with the needed supply of parts and the knowledge to exploit a project possibility such as this one.
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Is it the PX10 the right size for you?
These may be too small, but first is a 531 Reynold frame Mercier for $450, complete bike. Second is a Claude Butler frame for $160.
https://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/3643151435.html
https://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/3624682203.html
These may be too small, but first is a 531 Reynold frame Mercier for $450, complete bike. Second is a Claude Butler frame for $160.
https://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/3643151435.html
https://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/bik/3624682203.html
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Unless you have the time/tools/aptitude/pile of french parts, forget it. Building up frames without getting way under water cost wise is best left to those with those attributes. I keep a big box of french parts, picked up from donor bikes over the years, just for such projects.
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I guess the thing is that i dont mind keeping it as a side project and slowly collect the parts needed.
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You can find better bikes for less money. I find them over valued....
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It has been repainted w/ braze-ons added, which really hurts "collector" value. It will cost at least $500 to buy all the parts for a complete PX-10 - unless you happen to come across a donor PX-10 or PR-10 and then, what's the point? And then it will be a really nice "rider" bike, rather than a "collector" bike. The $800-900 you'll have in the bike is far more than it will be worth.
Be patient, look and look, you will find a complete PX-10 for a lot less than $800-900.
Be patient, look and look, you will find a complete PX-10 for a lot less than $800-900.
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I well likely get slammed by a lot of bike guys for this but PX-10's are way overated and priced on the current market. For the price this you can do a lot better in project bike and likely get a whole bike.
As nice as they are I would just not consider one exspecially as just frame and fork considering all the French stuff to deal with. You should be able to find a very nice project 531 frame and fork or even bike for under $200.
As nice as they are I would just not consider one exspecially as just frame and fork considering all the French stuff to deal with. You should be able to find a very nice project 531 frame and fork or even bike for under $200.
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