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J.Oxley 02-07-14 10:07 PM

Colnago with a Question Mark
 
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So I saw this on a not-too-close-to-me CL... Is it legit? (Note the question mark in the seller's title. Makes me more than a little wary.) Also, of course, I'm curious where the BF consensus would place the value.

Vintage Italian Colnago? Cross Bike - $395

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I got this bike on e-Bay about 15 years ago and never did anything with it. I know it could be parted out for more money, but I would rather sell it whole. It appears to be a vintage Cycle Cross bike, but I have no history, and the moving co. that sold it to me had no info either, so I will just describe the bike.
Note, People have asked weight of bicycle: Using a digital bathroom scale I get 19.4 pounds for the bike as pictured, so add the weight of your preferred saddle and pedals to that.

The bare frame is steel and weighs only 4 pounds, it has Campagnolo dropouts, no maker's mark anywhere on the frame, 54.5 cm seat tube (c-c), 56 cm top tube (c-c), 31 3/4" stand over height, Patent 80 Campagnolo NR derailleurs, HATTA Swan headset, Campagnolo seat post, Cinelli Criterium bar & stem, Campagnolo Victory wheelset with Clement sew up tires that still hold air, but should be re-glued before riding. Mafac cantilever brakes and levers, early Shimano 600 50-42 crank set and Shimano bar end shifters. I rode the bike a few times using a clincher wheelset and it is light and smooth, but needs a modern set of brake pads. I'm including a saddle and pedals since the bike had none when I got it. (they are seen on the saw table behind the bike)

Steve Whitlatch 02-07-14 10:16 PM

Its worth $395. See if you can get him down to $325. :)

mongol777 02-07-14 10:41 PM

Seller also has nice Miyata with GB fenders and in my size! Only 4200 km away - I think I can make it there by Mon night :-)
I like this Colnago, not an expert on authencity by any means but claimed sub 20 weight by seller (without pedals and saddle) is quite respectable for vintage steel cross build

jet sanchEz 02-08-14 07:54 AM

Definitely worth it but only if you want a decent cyclocross bike, not if you want a Colnago because I doubt it is a Colnago. At least the seller is honest about it and has not only been upfront about the bike's authenticity as a Colnago but he has priced it very well. I would buy both the cyclocross bike and the Miyata, they are good deals and the Miyata could bring you back some money as a flip (just keep the fenders, they are very pretty).

repechage 02-08-14 08:54 AM

I too think it is a Colnago by transfers only.
Not that it does not have value.
It has an interesting build up of parts. Maybe a Dura-Ace crank?

digger531 02-08-14 09:22 AM

The parts are worth the whole.

J.Oxley 02-08-14 01:06 PM

Thanks for the input. What I'm reading here is mostly what I was thinking, but I wanted to get more experienced eyes on it. I'll be passing on this one as I don't need a cyclocross bike. Just figured if it really were a Colnago I could turn a tidy profit in a couple of months.

FastJake 02-08-14 01:30 PM

Probably not a Colnago but a cool bike either way, especially the canti brakes. Old bikes with cantis always get my attention because they're so rare.

I'd check it out. Might want to get it for like $300 though.

I think sub-20 is possible without a saddle and pedals. Add those things and you're looking at 21-ish which I think is realistic.

Sixty Fiver 02-08-14 01:46 PM

The rear brake bridge tells me that it is not a Colnago... the bridge plate is indicative of a lower level frame as is the fork crown.

gomango 02-08-14 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16478929)
The rear brake bridge tells me that it is not a Colnago... the bridge plate is indicative of a lower level frame as is the fork crown.

If I were offered that bike at $250-300, I would buy it.

Looks like fun.

Bianchigirll 02-08-14 06:29 PM

Go look. If it has a 27.7 or 27.0 post and Campi drops pull out 350 cash.

just because it isn't a colnago is no reason to think it is cheap crap. I agree the rear bridge looks funky but how many of have actually seem what could be an early '80s Colnago 'cross frame?

CO_Hoya 02-08-14 07:19 PM

Forgive me if this is a dumb question but where are you guys seeing the rear bridge?

From what I can tell, pic 3 is the fork (the chainstay and seat tube are visible in the background) and I don't see the bridge in any other pics.

J.Oxley 02-08-14 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CO_Hoya (Post 16479628)
From what I can tell, pic 3 is the fork (the chainstay and seat tube are visible in the background) and I don't see the bridge in any other pics.

Holy heck the man is right. Until 10 seconds ago I'd been seeing pic 3 as a shot from the rear. Whoopsie.

J.Oxley 02-08-14 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 16479517)
Go look. If it has a 27.7 or 27.0 post and Campi drops pull out 350 cash.

We'll see if it's still there once our Oregon snow-fest recedes a bit. No way I'm getting out on the highways in this stuff, and the bike's a couple hours from me.

FastJake 02-08-14 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CO_Hoya (Post 16479628)
Forgive me if this is a dumb question but where are you guys seeing the rear bridge?

From what I can tell, pic 3 is the fork (the chainstay and seat tube are visible in the background) and I don't see the bridge in any other pics.

Agreed. There's no picture of the rear brake bridge, only the fork crown head-on.

J.Oxley 02-09-14 11:25 AM

I contacted the seller for more pics... When he can get down the icy hill to his workshed where the bike is, we'll have more to go on. Stay tuned!

J.Oxley 02-13-14 09:31 AM

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Okay... Seller got back to me with additional photos. Does anything here give a better indication what we're looking at here? Seems like there's some "texture" to the paint in the second pic of the BB... a respray? I dunno.

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CrescentWrench 02-13-14 10:09 AM

Looks like the rear dropouts are Campagnolo...

lostarchitect 02-13-14 02:01 PM

I have no idea if it's really a Colnago or not, but it is a quality frame with good parts. It's got to be worth $300 or a little more, I think.


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