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    Calling all vintage road bike experts

    My neighbor has this 10 speed from the early 70s/late 60s, she said she used to ride it when she was in junior high. She's wanting to sell it and buy a more relaxed bike for some casual riding and she asked me if I know anything about it. It looks like the brand is "Senator" and it has Tour d'Autriche written all over it. It's in pretty good condition, hasn't been ridden in about 25 years but the brake cables still pull. Anyone know anything about this bike/ the value she might be able to get out of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amantonas View Post
    Calling all vintage road bike experts
    They should have a forums for this.

    Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries

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    It is probably a store brand from the day, and low end at that..maybe $50.

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    You may get more info by posting this to the Classic & Vintage Appraisals thread: Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries

    I'm not familiar with the brand, but this bike has all the hallmarks of a cheap bike boom (early 70s) ride. It was probably mass-produced by Puch in Austria and then marked with a department store brand (like Free Spirit at Sears).

    Evidence:
    * Stem shifters -- though they work well, they were equipped on low-end bikes
    * stamped dropouts -- the rear dropouts are flat steel, punched into shape. Higher-end bikes will have more 3-dimensional, forged ones.
    * gas-pipe tubing -- though I can't see for sure, the lack of any tubing decals on the frame (and the other evidence) mean it's probably made of heavy, cheap steel.

    Value: $50 or less, if it's rideable. A high-end bike from the same era may bring $500 or more, but this was the equivalent of a Wal-mart bike in its day.

    That said, these bikes can be ok for flat-ground, relaxed riding. They're easy to repair and have classic appeal. But they aren't worth much.

    Donate it to the local bike co-op, and try to help her find a used hybrid from a big name manufacturer.

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    all of the above. not too much going on with that ride.

    for future reference, make sure to post pictures of components and the drive side of the bike. any labeling on the bike would help in valuation as well.

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    $50-$100. Depending on your salesmanship skills.

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    Typical all steel heavy clunker. Probably needs a good tune-up. Anything above free would be a bonus. Fine for riding to the store or down the beach path.

    I see crazy high prices for these old bikes on Craigslist, but I don't know how many actually sell. Too many people watching tv shows about antiques think that anything old must be valuable. 99.9 % are just old.
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    Around here, maybe $25. Department store level, basically its like an old Walmart bike, and one that needs a lot of work. Myself, I donate bikes like this one to my favorite thrift store.
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    yes, Senator is/was a department store badge. alas, cannot now recall what chain used it. machine is a Steyr product, made in Austria. if one enlarges the photo of the head this can be read.

    seat stays are capped with a white nylon plug. this is the very bottom of the Steyr range.

    not a machine which merits giving stall space to...

    for the trouble of listing and selling it your friend would come out ahead to just donate it to a charity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juvela View Post
    yes, Senator is/was a department store badge. alas, cannot now recall what chain used it. machine is a Steyr product, made in Austria. if one enlarges the photo of the head this can be read.

    seat stays are capped with a white nylon plug. this is the very bottom of the Steyr range.

    not a machine which merits giving stall space to...

    for the trouble of listing and selling it your friend would come out ahead to just donate it to a charity.

    Depending on where the owner resides, a trip to a bike co-op to locate some flat bars and maybe change the saddle and use it. It is functional or probably could be made fully functional, she has kept it for decades. Value as a used bike will be marginal, my guess in the $40 dollar range in Southern California.

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    Very little value, you might be able to get $50 from an unsuspecting newbie but in my opinion you'd be ripping the person off. $25 is a more appropriate price.

    Or donate it.
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