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Old 03-16-14, 08:47 PM   #1
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Bianchi - 18-speed Touring bike from mid-1980s - serial #ES 432892 - input requested

Have owned the bike from new - bought it after delightful cycle tours in Vermont and PEI, but could not adjust to heavy traffic around Toronto/GTA. Hardly used (still has original tires, albeit front rim replaced for reason I forget) - now I am retired want to take up cycling again and have acquired a Cannondale hybrid for using on the cycle paths that now exist.

I am interested in selling it:
(i) - Does anyone know the particular model name ?
(ii) - Any advice how to approach selling it (timing / asking price etc) ?

I will try uploading some pictures:


Details from the bike:
Tubing: 022 Ichiwata CrMo - double-butted
(on RHS rear stay where brake attached, small oblong marked 'R R6')
Piaggio stickers on downtube
Stem: 'Custom'
Hubs: SUZUE 3L LPF
Rims: AKAI (rear - no markings on front rim)
Tyres: Panaracer 700 x 32
Handle Bars: 'SAKAE RANDNNER - Road Champion'
Brakes: DIACOMP (everything: housing for levers to brake pads)
Crank: SAKAE 170
Pedals: SAKAE SP-150
Chain rings: Three: 52 (SA 305); 42 (SA 341); 34 ( SA 363);
Bottom Bracket: 'NIKYO 1.37" x 24T' on chrome item between the crank arm and the frame ('cup'?)
Derailleur: Suntour MOUNTECH (Front & rear & downtube levers)
Rear Cassette: Six speed

Bike has a couple of broken spokes on front wheel + needs a thorough service.
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Old 03-17-14, 06:44 PM   #2
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Chromoly tubing? All we got was mangalloy tubing. Your Canadian models are a bit different from ours but I am pretty sure this is a '84 Randonneur.

Other will chime in more on the price but not being ready to ride is a big turn off to most people. The huge size is a hit on price too. It looks to be in great shape aside from the wheel.

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Well it is nice basic touring bike. Specific year and model won't effect price much get the front wheel fixed tune it up so it is ready to rid In a hot market like yours you should be able to get $250-300 for it pretty easy. The large size with downtube shifters will limit the market somewhat so it may take awhile to move.
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In a hot market and ready to ride, I would say $400 all day. There is always a lot of talk about the larger size taking a price hit but I can tell you, here in the frigid midwest, I have been searching for two large bikes for almost a year. Granted I am looking for a good deal too but it has been slim pickings (frustration rant, sorry). Anyway...touring bikes are pretty hot right now as is steel and Bianchis are always hot. With a fresh tune and some $11/ tires I might ask $500
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Bianchi - 18-speed touring bike - do I do major fix up - or merely mend front wheel?

Thanks very much for the input - much appreciated.
I will certainly get the wheel fixed. Once that is done should be prime time to sell - may have 'lucked-out' there.
As for size, I am just under 6'2" and can (just) straddle the top bar with both feet on the ground. I will raise the saddle up another couple of inches - I seem to recall the bike shop I bought it from positioned the saddle higher than I have it now.

I would appreciate further comments about the merit of putting money into new tires / service.

[NB The bike is perfectly rideable at the moment (I took it for a 40/50km spin with my son last fall)].

Provided I keep receipts (as I would be using local bike shop to do the work) does the 'ready-to-go' factor mean I will be able to fully recoup the costs ?
Or am I better to ask a lower price and let the buyer do the work they want to the standards they demand ?

My impression last fall in chatting with the LBS about fixing up the bike was that mending the front wheel / new cables / full service could well cost $200 / $250 at their rates.
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The full service sounds like a complete overhaul. Gues list stuff like that on CL all the time Bike for sale just service xx.xx new tires xx.xx cables xx.xx it looks cheesy and gives the impression they are only after as much money as they can get.

IMHO selling a bike with a damaged front wheel is neglectful and as bad a selling a car with bad brakes.

you have a bike that you are not using and you spend 10 min posting it on craigslist (CL) and maybe get a quick $100-150 (listing as is for parts only) for your pocket. you can schlepp it to the shop spend 200-250 to get it service and the spend 30 min listing it on CL listing each new part and the price and wait maybe until June to get maybe $340-400 for it. About the same 100 bucks either way
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My comments were considering you doing the work. If you are going to pay a bike shop you will likely lose money.
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Really appreciate the comments - really glad I came across this forum.

I will get the front wheel fixed, ask a lower price, and leave it to the buyer to maintain/overhaul themselves/professionally as per their judgement.

Perhaps I am a sentimentalist - I hope it ends up at a good home !
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There are places in Toronto that will do repairs like that at a reasonable rate, and some that will show you how to do it yourself. Bike Pirates is one that comes to mind. Back in the day, when I had my own truing stand, I'd happily replace my own spokes, it isn't that difficult. Truing on the other hand is an art. But the front wheel is easier than the rear.

I would fix the spokes so that buyers can take a test ride, but let the buyers decide on an overhaul. Some buyers might be able to do some of the work themselves.

Its a nice bike, the size is an issue, but as others have mentioned, Toronto is a hot market. I would say ask $400 and accept $350, with the front wheel fixed. Good luck!
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JamesRL - Thanks for advice.
re BikePirates, just back from working there (new spoke, front wheel trued + bearings repacked with grease). Quite enjoyed myself, volunteers helped me at each stage. {Looking closely at the wheel I see the same UKAI marking on the front rim as on the rear rim, so perhaps my memory is faulty in thinking the front wheel was replaced.**
I may well go back and grease the rear-wheel + crank so that the bike is less likely to give issues to anyone who buys it from me.
I think you are likely in the ball-park about pricing in Toronto market now I have researched some of the local adverts.
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Wrap-up re Bianchi - vintage 18-speed touring bike

In appreciation of the advice from this forum generally, thought I would report outcome of attempt to sell.

Offered in Toronto, Ontario 'as is' (having mended front wheel with new spoke/trueing wheel/repacking grease; also replaced handlebar tape and polished bike) on Craigslist, Kijiji, PinkBike at $385 under a week ago.

Despite comments about challenges in selling an XL-size bike, got several responses already (CL most common source) - first person to try it (claimed he was 6'4") decided it was too short from seat to handlebar; second person to try it (also claimed to be 6'4") bought it - we agreed a price of $360.

Reflections on process:
~ what a wonderful resource this forum is - thanks for the advice re fixing the front wheel and re pricing;
~ My impression is that the Toronto market at this time of year is indeed 'hot', and that there is strong interest in a Bianchi bike even if XL-size;
~ I think I could likely have asked $425 and held out for $400 - but the whole process would have taken up more of my time (and who knows, perhaps I am deluding myself);
~ I am happy with the deal I made - The purchaser seemed to be someone who would appreciate the bike.
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