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    1980 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8 Chrome

    Hey guys, I purchased a 1980 Voyageur chrome model today, 23" frame. It's all original, but needs a good cleaning and to replace tires, tubes, lines, bar tape. I paid $150. The problem is it has a small (1/2 dime) size ding in the top tube in a very conspicuous spot.

    Saw it today and had to scoop it up. Hasn't been ridden in 15 years according to the owner.

    I was thinking to clean it up, replace worn items and "flip" since it's a desirable bike. Wondering if it will be worth it to invest my time and $$ into fixing it up, OR should I simply clean it up and sell frame and components as a group and list it for less $.

    Option 3, to hell with it, keep it myself...

    Thoughts?



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    Quote Originally Posted by oouellette View Post
    I was thinking to clean it up, replace worn items and "flip" since it's a desirable bike.
    good luck with that. intending to profit off a $150 dented frame sounds looney tunes to me.

    if it was in ready to ride and great condition (ie without dents), its worth $150-300. realistically about $200.
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    I just sold a very nice, no dents, new tires and ready to ride Voyageur on eBay for $232 plus shipping.

    If I took better pictures and sold it a little later in the Spring, I may have received a little more.
    People list these on eBay for $700+. I have never seen one sell for anywhere near that much.

    The dent hurts value. 23" frame is easier to find buyers than a 25" frame.

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    IMHO, you probably overpaid for a bike with a dented frame like that to make money on it. If it fits you, fix it up and ride it!
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    Only hope to get out in one piece on this one is sell it complete, pretty much as is. Clean it up some, take some great pictures, you might break even. If you have a supply of inexpensive consumables (think $1 cables, housings by the 50 foot roll, $5 bar tape, and some decent take off tires), you might put $15 into it refreshing it, and a couple of hours time. I don't think you will make minimum wage for those two hours. And if you have to pay retail for any of that stuff, you will be upside down for sure.

    On flips, you really need to buy low, with plenty of room for surprises. The MOST important part of any bike I pick up is the frame and fork: rust, damage, paint, decals, stuck parts. I have a pile of parts, so I can address other issues at a reasonable cost. If the frame has serious defects, I then look at the bike as a donor bike. $150 Voyageur 11.8 for a flip would need to be really pristine (no dent). Figure $50 in consumables, plus 6 hours time, and maybe it brings $300. And the risk there is what if it only brings $250? Or $225? You quickly become upside down.

    #1 mistake I continue to make on flips, is not walking away from mediocre deals.

    Last Voyaguer 11.8 I picked up was not chrome. Paid $16 for it. Typical as found condition, needed full strip and service: bearings, grease, new bb, saddle, pedals, tires, tubes, bar tape, brake pads, new lever hoods. That's about $80 in consumables, and figure 6 hours in labor. Sold for $225. Margin of $129. Figure another hour of time in marketing and selling the bike. Really the only reason it worked out well was the super low price. Decent return, but not flip of the year.... Its amazing sometimes how little I make on bikes that cost $20 or less.
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    Probably worth about what you paid for it (best case).
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    The top tube dent is a deal breaker for most potential buyers. It's sad to see that kind of damage on what otherwise is a very desirable frame.

    When there's a dent like that on a chrome plated frame, you can't roll it out, fill it, fair it, and paint it like you can with a painted frame.
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