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Old 05-27-14, 06:10 PM   #1
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Peugeot Super Competition 1980?

Hello, I bought this great Peugeot Super Competition from a friend of mine that I plan on cleaning up. Was wondering if anyone knew what it would be worth when it's cleaned up? And what's it worth as is? Thank you!

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What's going for the bike is the full Reynolds 531 frame. The components are a bit mixed up, but at least they are good top notch components from the correct period, but as a whole bike the mixed components will bring down the value a bit, as most people looking for a Peugeot Super Comp will usually look for a full French, period correct group on the bike. The bike also looks to need a good cleaning and a tune up. Considering all of this, I could not see the bike selling for more than 450 bucks max, and maybe just 350 some bucks in slower markets.
Clean it up, deal with the rust and touch up the frame the best you can, and you might get closer to 500 bucks, but not much more. If the bike was in better, close to mint condition and had the much desired Simplex SLJ5500 derailleur set in gold anodized finish and a full, period correct Stronglight group also in gold anodized finish to complement the derailleur set and the bike might sell for up to 700+ bucks in the hottest markets. Just don't expect the $1K+ starting prices that top line classic Italian steel bike fetch these days.... As Peugeots are mostly seen as high production number, mass produced bikes from one of the biggest conglomerates in France and not the more "artesinal" flavor that most Italian bikes seem to give most people.....Except maybe for Bianchi which seems to be Peugeot's equivalent in Italy...
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What's going for the bike is the full Reynolds 531 frame. The components are a bit mixed up, but at least they are good top notch components from the correct period, but as a whole bike the mixed components will bring down the value a bit, as most people looking for a Peugeot Super Comp will usually look for a full French, period correct group on the bike. The bike also looks to need a good cleaning and a tune up. Considering all of this, I could not see the bike selling for more than 450 bucks max, and maybe just 350 some bucks in slower markets.
Clean it up, deal with the rust and touch up the frame the best you can, and you might get closer to 500 bucks, but not much more. If the bike was in better, close to mint condition and had the much desired Simplex SLJ5500 derailleur set in gold anodized finish and a full, period correct Stronglight group also in gold anodized finish to complement the derailleur set and the bike might sell for up to 700+ bucks in the hottest markets. Just don't expect the $1K+ starting prices that top line classic Italian steel bike fetch these days.... As Peugeots are mostly seen as high production number, mass produced bikes from one of the biggest conglomerates in France and not the more "artesinal" flavor that most Italian bikes seem to give most people.....Except maybe for Bianchi which seems to be Peugeot's equivalent in Italy...
Great thanks, do you have an idea of what has been replaced/mixed on this bike? That would really help me understand what to keep and what I can replace.
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Not sure what the bike originally came with, but I'd suggest the following to come up with a good, early 80's, all French, period correct Peugeot Super Comp build:
(BTW, all the Campagnolo, and I think, Shimano and Modolo stuff were most likely later add-ons).
The Stronglight 105bis crankset on the bike could be original.. It is a very desirable, period correct, crankset and you should really keep it on the bike.
Brakeset could have been Mafac/Spidel LA sidepulls.
The pedals, Maillard 700 quills.
Saddle, Ideale 1000 or 2000, but a Brooks Pro with large rivets will look spectacular on this bike too!
Seapost, a Simplex fluted aluminum post.
Stem, an Atax/Peugeot quill stem.
Handlebar, A Philippe Tour de France model bar.
Bennoto Cello handlebar tape, usually in white.
Derailleurs, SLJ5500.
Shifters, first series Simplex retrofrictions (which I think you already have on the bike).
Hubs, 36H Maillard 700 low flange.
Rims, 36H Mavic Monthlery Pro tubular rims.
Spokes, DT stainless steel, straight guage or dubmle butted.
Tires, Wolber (if you can still find good ones) or Hutchinson tubular tires.
Freewheel, Maillard 700 compact 6 speeds.
Chain Sedisport silver.
Toe clips, Christophe Aluminum.
Straps, Christophe Plus.
Headset, Stronglight P series chromed steel, but you can also go to a much lighter Stronglight A9.
BB, Stronglight loose ball with chromed steel cupset and 118mm spindle length to work with most Stronglight double cranks from that era. You can try to find a Bador BB with aluminum cups and cartridge bearings, but those are close to unobtanium these days.

Some of these items might be different and higher in quality than what was originally on the bike, when the first owner bopught it, but they will surely enhance the bike to surely be a top level Peugeot from the early 80's.
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I just found this:
1979 Peugeot PY10 CP: 1980 New York International Bike Show
It's a slide show of a Peugeot bike show bike from the early 80's, marvelously preserved.
Coincidentally, most of the parts I mentioned above is on this bike.
This show bike could be your reference/benchmark for a mostly French rebuild for your bike if you decide to go that direction....

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Not sure what the bike originally came with, but I'd suggest the following to come up with a good, early 80's, all French, period correct Peugeot Super Comp build:
(BTW, all the Campagnolo, and I think, Shimano and Modolo stuff were most likely later add-ons).
The Stronglight 105bis crankset on the bike could be original.. It is a very desirable, period correct, crankset and you should really keep it on the bike.
Brakeset could have been Mafac/Spidel LA sidepulls.
The pedals, Maillard 700 quills.
Saddle, Ideale 1000 or 2000, but a Brooks Pro with large rivets will look spectacular on this bike too!
Seapost, a Simplex fluted aluminum post.
Stem, an Atax/Peugeot quill stem.
Handlebar, A Philippe Tour de France model bar.
Bennoto Cello handlebar tape, usually in white.
Derailleurs, SLJ5500.
Shifters, first series Simplex retrofrictions (which I think you already have on the bike).
Hubs, 36H Maillard 700 low flange.
Rims, 36H Mavic Monthlery Pro tubular rims.
Spokes, DT stainless steel, straight guage or dubmle butted.
Tires, Wolber (if you can still find good ones) or Hutchinson tubular tires.
Freewheel, Maillard 700 compact 6 speeds.
Chain Sedisport silver.
Toe clips, Christophe Aluminum.
Straps, Christophe Plus.
Headset, Stronglight P series chromed steel, but you can also go to a much lighter Stronglight A9.
BB, Stronglight loose ball with chromed steel cupset and 118mm spindle length to work with most Stronglight double cranks from that era. You can try to find a Bador BB with aluminum cups and cartridge bearings, but those are close to unobtanium these days.

Some of these items might be different and higher in quality than what was originally on the bike, when the first owner bopught it, but they will surely enhance the bike to surely be a top level Peugeot from the early 80's.
Very close to what my (I think) '82 has, with a few changes
The OE crankset on mine was a 106, but since I had a Peugeot labeled 104 in the parts bin, and no other Peugeot, I swapped it out. (The 106 was not Peugeot labeled)
The OE saddle is the Ideale 2001, remarkably comfortable for my rear. I've ridden several centuries on it.
The derailleurs on mine are an SJA102 front and SX410 rear.

One consideration on the rear derailleur is the dropout/hanger. Mine has an unmodified Simplex dropout/hanger, not suitable for Campy in its current configuration. Not sure what the OP's is, but it is wearing a Campy RD.

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Old 06-10-14, 12:34 AM   #7
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looking into a SUPER COMPETITION myself. found this if it helps... http://mysite.verizon.net/vzerndgo/s...oomPeugeot.jpg
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