jj1091

Looking at buying this 1962 Peugeot, wondering what model it is, and value. Owner wants $150.

bikemig 

Bit hard to tell from that crummy pic and with that ugly saddle but looks to be a UO-8 with steel rims and a cottered crank. Nice bike in nice shape but $150 is at the very top of what it is worth. I wouldn't pay that much unless I really wanted the bike for some reason. One thing is for sure, it can take pretty fat tires and you can do some fun mods to it if you want.

bikemig 

Here are some more pics, 1962 Peugeot Road Bike 26"

Paint job seems to be in good shape but the parts have what appear to be some minor rust issues. That bike will make a fine rider and an ace commuter but I think $150 is high for (quality) gas pipe tubing and steel rims. I like old Pugs so I'd bite at $100 or so.

jj1091

Here's a couple of other detail pics, not much to see from them.
I've been riding an old Huffy tourer, heavy as heck, but a great rider, with 26"x1.75 tires and a comfy sprung seat. Looks like this one is comparable in size and setup to my Huffy. If he comes down a bit, I may buy it.

jj1091

Also, I'm assuming this has 650b tires, not 26" as posted by the seller?

bikemig 

That's a really good point. UO-8s came with 27 inch wheels. I thought that the 650b Pugs came with cantis. If someone just slapped 26 wheels onto the bike, that's an issue as that can lead to heel strike when cornering. If it is a 650b Pug, then that's pretty cool.

In any case, it is a better (and lighter) bike than your Huffy. The only question is whether you want to put the work and money to get this bike riding well.

oddjob2

I'd pass. Salty air, rusting frame. Worth 50% of asking price due to bad paint.

jj1091

I did "uncover" more info. It's not a 1962, it's a 1972, and it's a PX-50, 650b randonneur. With that I know the wheels are stock, since the owner said the tires showed 26x1-1/2 which is the 584mm or 650b equivalent in ?fractional? sizing. So, except for the seat, it's all original. It was a US market bike, hence why it hasn't the short chainguard and no fenders or lights.

bikemig 

A 650b bike is pretty cool if you want a comfy rider. It lets you run a pretty fat tire at low pressure. Pugs make good riders in general; I like them a lot. Here is a thread on the PX 50, https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...condition.html. The valuations are all over the map. The frame and the wheels look to be in good shape but the parts appear to have some rust.

This bike will make a great and very comfortable rider. It will need a fair amount of work (a complete overhaul, new chain, cables, etc.) and the parts will need some reconditioning. Still I would seriously consider buying this bike but then I really like old Peugeots.

jj1091

I'll be working out the deal today on it, it's the sort of bike I'm riding now, an old tourer. After countless vintage 10-speeds of every sort and price-range, it seems I really don't like riding racing bikes, and when my latest ride got to be something I could ride all day on (an old '79 Huffy Timberline MTB), I even gave up my car and went green. I've never lost money on a bike, broke even a few times, but I have a good knack for restorations, clean and lube everything, remo all the rust, keep the paint and graphics original with minor touchups, then ride, so I don't go overboard on the pristine originality thing. I've had two Pugs before, the one I miss the most was an '85 Orient Express, great bike with the giant cantilever brakes, fenders, lights, the works. I think they're highly underrated. I'm excited about doing this restoration.

miamijim

For the most part stuff doesnt rust down here. Maybe if your within a block of the ocean it might but metal holds up down here.

jj1091

Yeah, Jim, the bike was in good shape, that rust that was on the frame was surface rust where the paint had been scraped off. The chrome wheels on the bike were flawless as was the chrome chainring, and it had the usual rusty nuts and bolts here and there. I stabilized the rust last night, took a few hours, but not bad rust anywhere. I'll be tearing it down for repacking all the bearings over the next couple of days, and get the remainder of the corrosion taken care of.

Sixty Fiver

Was going to say it was a later model based on the decals and a 650B bicycle is a cool find that might bump the value a little bit.

jj1091

You're absolutely correct. There seems to be a graphics change in '74 that's not well documented, but the seat tube stripes above and below the checkerboard (on mine) do not have the rainbow stripes, and the toptube decal (on mine) doesn't have the straight ends (has slanted ends), which would put it in the '74-'76 era. I checked every component for date codes, and came up with the only date code on them, which was on the hubs, and it shows a "P 10 75", which mark it as October 1975. There is an all original 1975 model shown on a search which is an exact copy of mine, different color, but every component matches.

Good catch, thanks.

Noah Scape

I'm not sure this is a PX-50. Looks more like a UO-8 that someone added 650b wheels and MAFAC Raids to (for the reach). I have only seen one PX-50 of that vintage and it came with cantis. Beautiful color, however.

jj1091

Here's 2 '75's.

All the UO-8's I've seen, this vintage, had rainbow stripes on the seat-tube, mine doesn't. Best I can tell, mine meets every PX-50L detail for the French-market bikes of that era, 74-76, has the braze-on for a generator on the left seat-stay, braze-on wiring guides under the down-tube and the left chain-stay, rubber-grommet fender-bolt under the head-tube, different top-tube stripe than the US market bikes. But then, I'm no Pug expert, just using standard searches.

Noah Scape

I'm not an expert either, it's just the wheels looked small for the frame (although it's hard to tell from the angle of the pic) and PX-50s are rare relative to the UO-8. It would more valuable with the fenders and racks, but the Raids are hard to find and can fetch a tidy sum.

miamijim

Looking through catalogs it looks like a PX50 is 650b version of the PX8.

Catalog scans confirm its probably a PX50.

jj1091

I had measured the tire clearances on the frame (all the original fender-mount bolts are still there) and there's 5/8" clearance all around. The fenders wouldn't have fit with enough clearance between the frame and the tire if the original tire size was 27' or 700c, so it helped me see that it was originally a 650b-size frame. It's why I sold 3 of my bikes to get this one, it appeared to be a rarer sort of Peugeot. I'd seen a UO-8 with fenders, lights, racks and all for $80 that I passed on when I saw this one. I'd had an '85 Orient Express MTB-style Pug earlier this year and loved it, just something likeable about the uniqueness of them. So far, after the initial tweaking, I've not had problem one with it.

Yeah, I'll be looking for OE fenders and racks, next. I can easily find fenders for the larger-wheel Peugeots, but the 650b wheel size may take a while. Like you noted, more unique, more money....